Yes, of course we send you info as we find it. And as you pointed about expenses out of pocket, Steve calls world wide to get info on vehicles 1921 - 1934 in Billy's empire and off shoots. Would hate to see his phone bills and how much he has spent out of pocket. Misconception as Steve started his OWN Registry before Terry passed and was asked to take over Terry's durantcars which went no where when we couldn't make any sense of Terry's site to do anything. I still have a few mails on that failed venture. Going back in history, the Cumberland Museum came after me about their 1929 Durant 40 vin not being in the vin range on Jeff's vin list and when was it made etc. I then looked at Jeff's vin endeavor in DMAC and Terry's own site, and both were incorrect but differently. Jeff's had no vin ranges for Jan - July 1929 at all plants on the 40 and Terry did but had 101 as start instead of 1001. Terry fixed his after I told him. Cumberland now happy their car was a 1929 model year in the first seven months. Rick couldn't figure how to add the line of info on Jeff's page, so it remained that way until last year.

About the same time Steve contacted Terry, as Terry's last entry into his site was half the info on my 32 in Dec 2006 and nothing after. Terry also told me he intended on doing a Canadian side to his site if he had time. Didn't happen. Most of his site is based on Branham's info which is US only. Steve volunteered to work with Terry to fix / update / add info, with the understanding Terry would have final say to the updates. Terry refused Steve's offer. Now you have the understanding of Steve's OWN Registry beginning to take place and gathering info everywhere. I've never seen them but Steve has boxes of books, vin books, brochures on our cars to build his Registry.

The Mess I refer to is trying to figure out what exactly is the correct eight body tag style numbers for the De Vaux's. As example in my email to you, when one vehicle is called a Custom Coupe with 151 tag and another with 153. Or another saying Sport Sedan has 158 yet another showing 150. That's the sort of thing I am talking about. If we knew what the correct 8 tags are then we could alter info on the wrong ones to reflect the vehicle is a Standard Coupe / Sedan not one of the other three, sort of thing. Yes owners alter vehicles as we know to from what rolled out of the factory but underneath that tag tells the truth.

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Dominion built 614 Sedan

Where Are You From? Hookstown Pennsylvania

Do You own a car built by Durant? many

Is it possible for someone to post a picture of an open hood on a Devaux where it attaches to the center bar? My car is in pieces, and I am trying to figure out how the hood is held in place at that center bar. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Where Are You From? Elk Grove, Ca

Do You own a car built by Durant? DeVaux

Greg: I just sent you a pack of pictures. I have one shot taken from each side of the engine. That way you will know how things should attach. I never took a picture that could explain what you are needing to do. I will have to call you to try to explain it.
These are the same parts I need to hang the hood on my 32. I hope to get them within a few weeks. Then I will take pictures to send to you.

Frank: I am glad you posted the pictures of you car. As we can see in the 3rd picture there is no brace coming out of the body (just above the "Hayes" badge) Soon after production started the factories got complaints from customers of vibration of the spare wheel assembly. I got this from Howard when I saw pictures of Tim's 31 without a brace. In factory production they appear to be only 35 units apart.
Gary

Where Are You From? Washington State

Do You own a car built by Durant? Yes

Gary .. that the same hood strip and end clamps I mentioned to you about finding B42 Mack ones ? Mack is too long but can be cut to length needed. Also used on the 31 / 32 Durant / Rugby's, Plymouths and other vehicles. Ours are chromed steel but Mack's are stainless steel.





Had to wait trying to get Windoz Live Mail to work in the pc but here's the lad I got mine off of. I note even the bigmacktrucks site refers to the same lad for the same parts.

B Mack hood strip / ends http://www.kingofsalvage.com/mack-b-model-hood-fender.htm

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Dominion built 614 Sedan

Been doing some snooping around and Watts Truck Center used to also carry the hood strip and ends for B model Mack Trucks. I don't see those now.
Mac's Ford Parts carry the strip for 32 - 35 Ford's but its too short for our hoods and the two different ends are not ours.
What I did find was this site that carry's both the strip and end caps we use. Strip like the Mack's, is 4 feet long but as they say can me cut to fit the vehicles that used the strip.
The caps they show, ours is the left ones for the 32 Plymouth.

http://www.srpmstreetrods.com/srpm/mopar-hood-hinge-center-strip-ff8081812db6a293012dbe0e3cd504d5-p.html

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Dominion built 614 Sedan

Maybe the "S" on the Hayes body tag is for Sakhnoffsky....as in Count? As it appears on the more arrow dynamic designed versions?

Where Are You From? Tucson

Do You own a car built by Durant? a-22, b-22, 633

We will never know what was used on the 685 Fronty tags or what was on 633 Coupe tag unless a few of these vehicles come out of the woodwork to give us a clue. As we know 680 / 685 / 633 used same Hayes bodies / fenders. Its possible different alpha was used to correspond to the numeric 680 body tags. Again why were body tags used on the 33 / 34 Continentals but not on the C-400 / C-600 Frontys ? then to throw a monkey wrench in that and have the Ace with 181 and Fronty Ace with 191 Hayes tags. In the case of the Ace's the vin plate model is 81 US and 91 Can. That blows the idea everywhere in vin and models info both were 81's. If we hadn't gone after Daryl for his Ace's info that myth would have continued. Then eBay had a rusty Ace in the US a few years back and its tag had 191. So it wasn't an Ace but a Fronty Ace.

Another notion is the S was "Special" order for the 9 / 11 / 15 ?? 633's built.

Apparently Alexis had nothing to do with De Vaux bodies. Reading this the 680 and later were used up Hayes bodies. What bodies ? Reo / Franklin that looks much like the 680 body. Remember REO was built in Dominion 1932 and after.
What I have trouble with is what unused Durant bodies ? You study the Durant / 675 De Vaux sedan and they aren't the same. Rear quarter windows on De Vaux are wider and back of rear door is forward of center of the fender. De Vaux wood doors and posts and 3 hinge on fronts. Windshield swings out. Durant windshield goes up, doors and posts are steel, front door 2 hinge, quarter window narrower, back of rear door is center of fender.
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In 1930 Hayes signed a three-­year contract to build bodies for the American Austin/Bantam that were designed by deSakhnoffsky, and later made a deal to supply bodies for the 1931-32 DeVaux. Although DeVaux advertisements stated that deSakhnoffsky had designed the cars coachwork, in reality the bodies he designed weren’t actually used. Instead, leftover Hayes-built Durant bodies were supplied to DeVaux with deSakhnoffsky-designed fenders, hood and grill to update them. By the time the DeVaux appeared, deSakhnoffsky had been hired away by Packard’s Edward Macauley, and was in no position to complain.

In fact the DeVaux was built in a leased portion of Hayes huge Grand Rapids plant, and the bodies were transported across a second floor bridge that ran over the street that separated the two buildings. DeVaux’s successor, Continental, continued to utilize various leftover Hayes-built bodies.

In the early Depression era, many manufacturers shared bodies to help reduce. The Peerless Custom Eight and Marmon Big Eight shared the same Hayes-built body between 1930 and 1932, and the 1932 Marmon 8-125, 1932-34 Reo Flying Cloud 6S and 1933-34 Franklin Olympic shared a different Hayes design. Automobile customers rarely compared the actual bodies, and addressed their attention to a vehicle’s front end, which could be easily disguised using a different grill or front fenders. General Motors started doing it at the same time, and the practice continues today.

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Dominion built 614 Sedan