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Re: Teaser on facebook

Ross:
That would be the same brake as on the Frontenac. I would like to hear a little more about what you have made and if you are planning to sell them. I could not find anything on Facebook. Maybe takes a lot longer to get all the way up to Ontario.
Merry Christmas, Ross

Gord

Where Are You From? Guelph, Ontario, Canada

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Frontenac built by Dominion Motors Ltd, Leaside, Ontario

Re: Teaser on facebook

Brake drum re-enforcing bands for my 6-14. The 6-14 and other models used "Steeldraulic" 4 wheel brakes with stamped steel drums. The potential issue is under hard usage e.g. braking down a long hill, that the drums will naturally heat up and expand away from the brake linings giving a "mechanical" brake fade. Not a fun feeling. Model A Fords for example, had some of the same problems, but later cars and trucks especially could be had with cast iron drums which will not do this. Model A suppliers have made cast iron drums and also brake re-enforcing bands for installation on stock systems. These bands I had made for the 6-14 are heat shrunk onto my existing (wood wheel) drums to control this expansion. I had a good friend machine these parts for me from DOM (drawn over mandrel)hot formed steel tubing. This is NOT pipe, and has no seam weld to fracture. I can send the information on how these parts were made if anyone else wants to tackle this project. I'm sure Bill Hoaglan can do this in his sleep! Cost; the raw bands cut into blanks by the supplier was $300.00 a year ago here in Portland Oregon. My friend Jeff figures he might of had $2000.00 in machine work. I then had these powdercoated in Brewster green (my car's color) for $100.00. A lot of money for sure, but I had some parts for a different type of car to trade, which softened the blow. Again, if anyone wants a step by step rundown on this let me know. I sent a short video to Rick Botti showing the way to heat up these bands so they drop right over the prepared drums.(Couldn't figure out how to put it on the forum) As an aside I have a set of 4 bands for a 1929 (Phil Peters used the same on his car) that I bought from Mac's model T and A parts a while back.I'll sell for cost, but they are not as pretty as these!

Where Are You From? OR

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1930 6-14

Re: Teaser on facebook

Ross:
I would be much interested in learning more about these rings that you had made. I had thought of getting the rings for the Model A and reforming them, but I wasn.t sure if they would really do what I wanted. My brakes aren't too bad, but they do fade a lot when hot. Of course, I have driven that car now for over 50 years and have put on about 75000 miles, so the drums are getting thinner. I do have several sets of drums, but most of them are not too good, they were probably worn out when I saved them. I would really like to know what all you had to do to your drums to prepare them for the rings.
Happy year to you Ross. Our New year was much different, now that Mary Carolyne is no longer with us. But I guess we must carry on.


























Where Are You From? Guelph, Ontario, Canada

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Frontenac built by Dominion Motors Ltd, Leaside, Ontario

Re: Teaser on facebook

Ross, It looks like this '32 DeVaux that I am currently restoring has the same steeldraulic brakes, However I have wire wheels, I would imagine that the drum O.D.s are the same on either wood or wire...Thanks for digging into this, I was planning to put bands on my DeVaux and it looks like what you have done would be a good way to go...The lathe I have down here in AZ is a little on the small side but when I get back home in the spring I have a nice size lathe with a 12" four jaw chuck...Yes, I would appreciate any particulars that you have, It always saves a lot of head scratching...I am thinking that this would also be great information to have in our Technical page...Article? Thanks Ross! You the man.

Where Are You From? Leavenworth WA / Yuma, AZ

Do You own a car built by Durant? Several

Re: Teaser on facebook

Powdercoated drums with re-enforcing brake bands installed20210101-124557

Where Are You From? OR

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1930 6-14

Re: Teaser on facebook

from my machinist friend on Scan2-1making the brake bandsScan2-1="https://i.ibb.co/KcPXyzg/Scan2-1.jpg" alt="Scan2-1" border="0" />

Where Are You From? orygun

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1930 6-14

 

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