Don- Did you figure out any way to fit the brake re-enforcing bands to your drums? I ordered the model A bands that Lance recommended from Mac's and they are too big by about 3/4 inch. Before I send them back I would like to know if you found out anything. I guess when they work it's a great improvement. Phil Peters uses them on his 29 and is happy with them. Does that mean that 29s have bigger, better brakes? Horrible! Ross
Ross:
I remember that Lance mentioned that the Model A rings are too big and have to be cut down by the welding shop that you are using to install the rings. You have to cut out a piece of the ring and then reweld it together. Then you have to heat the ring and cool the drum to install the ring. Just too bad that you can't order rings the proper size. Let me know how you make out. I know one chap who was able to get an eleven inch ring. He says his brakes are wonderful now. He heated the ring up on the bar b que and had the drum in the freezer overnight. A lot of squeaking when he dropped the ring on the cold drum. (He cleaned the outside of the drums up on the lathe first to make sure it was a nice clean match)
Where Are You From? Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Frontenac built by Dominion Motors Limited, Leaside, On tario
The model A has an 11" "inside diameter" brake drum as does our '28 and '29s...Your steeldraulic brake drums are 11" "outside diameter" That is the reason that Lance mentions in the post above the need to remove a chunk of the bands and weld...Phil on the other hand told me that the bands installed with no need for modification on his '29...I originally thought that the model A bands had to be modified to fit any of our drums was one reason that I machined my own set of ductile iron bands for my '28, with those I machined them to 10 thousands smaller I.D. then the drums and heat them to 500 degrees and installed them with a shrink fit...Not sure how you would cut a chunk from the model A bands and expect to end up with an exact shrink fit unless the bands are machined after or they are capable of stretching somewhat? Lance I am sure would have the answer....I Sand blasted my drums before installing my bands with a fine sand so they would get a good heat transfer and lock.
Yeah,Bill I was wondering how that was going to work with taking out just enough of these new bands to get a shrink fit on my drums without some machine work to make them round again after you have taken out this precise amount and welded everything back together. My machinist friend is good (part time race car mechanic and fabricator), but it will involve some head scratching. But thanks for the info on what you came up with. Ross
Ross:
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. As you know the bands are too big, I sent mine back and worked on adjusting the breaks to function better. I looked into making some bands to the proper size but the cost was to high. So my solution is defensive driving, down shift early and stay away from steep hills.
Merry Christmas - DJ
Where Are You From? Port Hueneme, California
Do You own a car built by Durant? 1930 Durant deluxe Sedan
I would like to get those 10 pages about Steeldraulics that you offered. Call me if you would, to get address and I will pay for mailing costs, etc. 727-327-5717 TYhanks, Ross Nelson
Where Are You From? St. Pete, Florida
Do You own a car built by Durant? Yes, 1930 Durant 614
Alan I believe you have a Durant D60 series 2 touring with 14L 6 cyl from Africa with a vin plate off a Rugby D40 which is 4 cyl with W5A. The D60 does not have steeldraulic brakes. Those are used on 1930 - 32 Durant car, 1930 - 1933 Rugby truck and 1931 / 32 Frontenac.
The 60 has Four-wheel Bendix mechanical, internal expanding, self-energizing shoe type; 11" brake drums. Easy adjustment.
More info can be found here on your D60. This durantcar used to be on DMAC but luckily the waybackmachine site captured it.