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Re: Lane departure warning calibration

Honestly, our current policy involves a waiver acknowledging that it is solely the customers responsibility to make a trip to their dealership to be recalibrated after install. We as a shop take no responsibility for the recalibration process or anything that may go wrong as a result of the customer not having this work completed in a timely fashion after install. As for non OEM Parts. Ive already had this problem in the front office. Ins companies won't authorize glass for install unless it is the dealer part BC they can't guarantee that the "non oem glass" will calibrate correctly. Then we have to get authorization for the dealer part anyway. Talk about a PITA. The last one we ordered in was not OEM and calibrated perfectly after the fact but her insurance wouldn't cover the cost BC it was not an OEM part.

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

I love it love it. Point on:-)))))))))

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

NOVUS
Now that Belron has announced that they will be able to calibrate on the spot, what is everyone doing right now about it?
What is current cost on a calibration tool for automotive glass industry? Canadian funds please

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

No Belron can not do Calibrations on the spot!!!!! only in a shop under a controlled environment also they can not do all cars they are limited to what models they can due!!! so it is just a lot of BS for marketing to the Insurance Industry.

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

not true once again a person speaking about Big s who doesn't work there.

we ARE doing mobile recalibration.

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

I worked with S-lite for 17+ years from tech to management. They will do what ever it takes to get a job in there system. Big wings came through regularly to make sure we tell customers that we only use OEE glass, but will have the SGC logo on it. Which is BS. Now that I'm on my own recertified and AGROSS certified ect. And I refuse to get on board to there preferred provider program they tell my customers that call in that they will not warranty any work preformed on there car. Even if I agree to get on board with there program they still don't warranty the work performed by another company period. Going back recalibration, S-lite definitely has to do a recalibration on every car that has the lane departure camera on the windshield because it's not a true OE glass but an SGC AFTERMARKET GLASS period, no matter how they work it. If a camera is mounted to the glass most of the time it does need recalibration, no way to tell until until it until it's not working properly.

Food for thought. With almost every certification that S-lite had to offer I had, when I left the BS behind and went on my own, why do the insurance companies not honor all the certifications I had with them??? I recertified with several of the certifications they honored and none of the certifications from S-lite were anywhere on the list?

Last thing. Pilkington is the OE manufacture for most of Toyota now. So if I use pilkington glass on a Toyota that has pilkington name under Toyota, wouldn't that be putting a OE manufactured glass back in? And yes I do under stand it's no quite the same as using the dealer OE glass which has Toyota on it but still made by the same manufacturer pilkington.

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

Problem being unless the dot code states that it is OEM glass it won’t recal the camera 17-current @ the dealer for Toyota. Then there is the problem of the manufacturer voiding the vehicles warranty if other than OEM is used on models with adas systems. Subaru had a huge bulletin on this a year ago or so for vehicles with eyesight systems. Then bmw & gm are self calibrating. Looking into the opti aim my self. But for the most part I try to setup replacement at the local dealership so it can be calibrated as soon as I’m done. My biggest concern is my customers safety and there investment.

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

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I worked with S-lite for 17+ years from tech to management. They will do what ever it takes to get a job in there system. Big wings came through regularly to make sure we tell customers that we only use OEE glass, but will have the SGC logo on it. Which is BS. Now that I'm on my own recertified and AGROSS certified ect. And I refuse to get on board to there preferred provider program they tell my customers that call in that they will not warranty any work preformed on there car. Even if I agree to get on board with there program they still don't warranty the work performed by another company period. Going back recalibration, S-lite definitely has to do a recalibration on every car that has the lane departure camera on the windshield because it's not a true OE glass but an SGC AFTERMARKET GLASS period, no matter how they work it. If a camera is mounted to the glass most of the time it does need recalibration, no way to tell until until it until it's not working properly.

Food for thought. With almost every certification that S-lite had to offer I had, when I left the BS behind and went on my own, why do the insurance companies not honor all the certifications I had with them??? I recertified with several of the certifications they honored and none of the certifications from S-lite were anywhere on the list?

Last thing. Pilkington is the OE manufacture for most of Toyota now. So if I use pilkington glass on a Toyota that has pilkington name under Toyota, wouldn't that be putting a OE manufactured glass back in? And yes I do under stand it's no quite the same as using the dealer OE glass which has Toyota on it but still made by the same manufacturer pilkington.
"Last thing. Pilkington is the OE manufacture for most of Toyota now. So if I use pilkington glass on a Toyota that has pilkington name under Toyota, wouldn't that be putting a OE manufactured glass back in?"

Technically, no, even if the DOT matches if it does not say Toyota on it then it is not OE glass. The difference goes deeper than this but it's a very long explanation.

Also, one of the MAJOR differences is not the glass itself but the attachments that are put on it. When making the same parts for aftermarket there's no guarantee Pilkington is putting the same OEM mounting brackets on the glass. The way the glass is transported and stored makes a big difference as well. Most glass from a dealer is protected much better than the bulk purchased glass from a big distributor. In many cases the plastic tabs can be cracked, broken or bent because the crated windshields press against each other too hard or the metal spring tabs can be slightly bent because the crated windshields have been pushing on them for weeks/months during transport. We have seen both of these issues with Honda and Toyota with the same DOT as the OE glass. So far we have installed only 5 aftermarket windshields for LDWS cars and 2 of them did not work for recalibration until we put in dealer glass. We have also done 20+ dealer windshields with LDWS and every one has recalibrated properly.

We have been using the Autel Maxisys for about 3 months now.

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

Isn't it illegal to operate an electronic device while operating a motor vehicle? I wouldn't want you driving my car

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

Well NTB has retail stores with nothing more than a few display tires and Point of Sale fixtures. There are no techs or shop equipment. It's called Roll. They will change your tires at your office, home, shopping lot, soccer field. There is a market shift toward service. Either adapt or fall behind. You can have a dealer on wheels now partnering with the right customers and beyond that, the percentage of vehicle repairs that can be done remotely is increasing quickly. These new cars are equipped with capabilities not limited by hardware but by software speeds our current infrastructure cannot support yet. Vehicles are just software upgrades away from driving fully autonomous now, when our roads can support the technology the software will be updated and capabilities unlocked. We are at least 70 percent mobile capable now and working on fully capable on a segment of procedures remotely.

Re: Lane departure warning calibration

To speak to "B"ron or "S"lites ability to withstand some lawsuits... I have witnessed on many occasions the Das1000 show successful calibration screen which is all that is required to get paid by insurance here. I am a TECHNICIAN and know my trade so I do my research and keep informed. This scanner gives you the "XY" coordinates and I can tell you without a doubt that vehicles at great numbers are being given back to customers without proper calibration and substantially out of range of OEM spec. That being said the dealers cant be fully trusted to complete these calibrations either. I have to assume and hope that the engineers who are designing these systems are allowing the vehicle to recalibrate themselves as the software is already installed in the vehicle and we merely trigger it to recalibrate on demand... I HOPE.

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