Just noticed this today when I had to call for pricing and availability. Been this way for a while? Just noticed online the nags list is gone as well. Is it a move of some kind? Trying to save a buck or two? New requirements from Mitchell?

Would it be a bad thing if our distributors completely ignored NAGS? For the most part they have, even though they have been showing Nags Benchmark that is pretty much irrelevant for many of us.

Is it time to STOP using that magic BENCHMARK to arrive at pricing???????? What an impact it would have on the industry at large!


What a concept!

I called my Rep and he said he was just reviewing it after my phone call as they gave him no notice either about it happening.
I called NAGS and bought a one year subscription for $90.00 which will give you a new Calcualtor once every 4 months, since it was sudden and they were unprepared it will take 2-3 weeks to receive my first copy. Only by mail , asked if I will get a renewal notice and was told they will send a Fax when your subscription is up. Come on I haven;t had a fax in 5 years ,what about an Email, no sorry fax only.
I've used PGW for the 9 years I've been in Business ,so oh well. Greed wins.

Stacy

Which distributors provide NAGS list info anymore?

We spoke with our PGW rep yesterday about this. He informed us that it was a decision based on several factors. First, he said that that PGW paid big fees to Mitchell in order to publish the information. Second, he claimed that very few people were using the info based on "their research", and finally he said that NAGS took issue with them putting the info out there for "those who did not pay for access", so the decision came down to remove the info completely.

Although we have numerous devices and terminals with GlassMate and NAGS info, we did use the PGW posted info for spot quotes for cash jobs in our body shops. No Harm - No Foul on our end, but I know that this most certainly has an effect on the smaller shops out there.

nags pricing has been a joke for years. ppg was the first to stick it to them years ago to come up with another form of pricing

This really sucks for guys like me that don't have the man power to do direct billing. Hell I don't have time to bill lynx or sgc as it is.

If you join the IGA, you get Total Shop Management included with your membership allowing you to see NAGS and OEM pricing. You also get to see PGW, Pilkington and Mygrant pricing and availability side-by-side. Don't waste your money on just purchasing a pricing calculator when you can have so much more.

Aren't they still using proprietary information by using the Nags part numbers? The list price is just part of the system, right?

Looks like they're back !

You just are unable to exist without your NAGS prices. You deserve what you get.

If a Major global manufacturing & distribution company disregards NAGS lists, what grounds do Insurance companies have trying to force AGR companies to adhere to them? Could it be the NETWORKS forcing their "competition" to use NAGS?

YOU EITHER USE ALL OF NAGS OR NONE AT ALL. TO SAY THE NAGS LIST IS NO GOOD BUT YOU WILL USE THE PART NUMBERS IS
, WELL , STUPID.


Is it rocket science to differentiate between a parts identification system that works pretty well and is handy and kow-kowting to the b.s. prices created by the same entity?

WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE????? DO YOU TAKE CRETIN PILLS???? Now I know how Obama got elected TWICE and Hillary will be anointed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Sglass, Long time no see! The insurance companies have been using the NAGS pricing to create their deep discount offers. Insurance companies will set their rates based on paying out retail prices and then will offer low ball prices to anyone that will accept their offer. That way they will guarantee profits. As long as they have fewer claims than anticipated, they will still make a profit even if they pay full retail prices. You are right. They do not have any grounds for increasing their profits at the expense of the service providers that serve their policyholders.

Sglass, I know it will shock you, but I have been in this business longer than you. Everybody dodges, weaves, ignores, and side steps: NAGS is indeed quite handy as a parts identifier. To accept the handy parts identification aspect should have absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with their freaking chutzpa in creating prices.

WHAT DON'T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND? Parts ID, great. Benchmark Price suggestion, ABOMINATION!!!!!!!!!!!

You *****, **** and moan, and kvetch about "insurance Pricing" and the NAGS list, etc etc
But you bend over AND ALLOW IT to rule your lives. WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?

Man
I think you still miss my point. Plus FYI I owned an AGR shop for 38 years, I've been in one for 54 years 😊
Still go take that pill