Do you record in 4:3?

It has never been an issue for me with rage though until last November. Something must have changed in the way they broadcast these earlier-encoded videos, as nothing has changed at my end with recorders/set top box, and there have been 2 or 3 weeks since then when the overscanning lines didn't appear on these clips.

The dashed lines are brighter/even more noticeable on ABC HD.

BTW I noticed it on all of the rage clips you sent me (recorded before last November), but figured it must be something to do with the recording device/s you use. Didn't see it when watching on TV, but did when playing the disc on my computer.

I'm in the Apple ecosystem which doesn't work for everyone of course. I use either Apple Compressor or MPEGstreamclip to transcode from the MPEG source to another format for editing, then edit using Final Cut Pro, and transcode back to MPEG (at 10 Mbps) for archival copies and my home media player, and deinterlaced MP4 for portable devices.

MPEGstreamclip is free and extremely versatile but hasn't been updated for about 10 years, so with OS updates over the years, it is becoming increasingly flaky as bits of it randomly don't work. The other programmes are pro level and cost real money. Despite it's name, Compressor is not just a video file compressor, it can transcode into just about any format.

For the MPEG file conversion, I output with Apple Intermediate Codec or one of the Apple ProRes formats if super high quality is really required. There are even lossless formats you can transcode into, but that is seriously overkill on my book. From my experience working with music videos from rage that were recorded on analogue equipment in the 80s and 90s, any loss in quality transcoding even into something like DV (which lots of people think is junk) is just not noticeable to my eye.

However I agree MP4 is not good enough, and I don't transcode into it for editing and it's not a suitable format for nonlinear editing anyway.

Nathan,

From what I can see I don't get any of these overscanning lines on the top of my secreen

You won't see the lines on your TV, but if you play a disc on your computer, you probably will. They were on the 'How Can It Be' clip you sent me.

Nathan,

I don't play my DVD's on my computer, only on my DVD Player/TV ...

So they are only visible when watching on the computer?

At Jason B, very interesting!


I only watch my DVD's on my TV and not my computer, so this is why I am not seeing this on my recordings

I've seen the overscan lines on the ABC ME repeats before, but they haven't been there the last few weeks. Odd. But ABC is still affected.

I'm seeing the lines in all ratios on some videos when I'm editing on my Panasonic DVD recorder.

The recorder I use for recording in 16:9 is Panasonic, but the other, older model I use for recording rage in 4:3 is Pioneer. I get the lines on both, but only for videos encoded by rage prior to February 2012. But the ABC ME repeats seem OK - for now, anyway (they were getting the lines a month or two ago too).

Wow, the overscan lines weren't there on this morning's rage Vault episode!

I'd like to think my email alerting rage to this a few weeks back had an impact, but the lines will probably be back on the weekend

The overscan lines now seem to be permanently gone.