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Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

ohnoitisnathan
Guru Bob, when you get time, would you mind posting (or updating) the list of unrepeated Countdowns remaining after this year?

It's been a couple of years since I have done this so I hope my record keeping was OK over the interim period.

Of the 47 surviving 1970's episodes, all have been shown (multiple times quite often) except for the following 4:

Dec 26 1976 Top 100 clips No78-64 (only the clip inserts tape exists)
Dec 11 1977 Top 100 clips style show (only the clip inserts tape exists)
ep 142 March 19 1978 Adelaide Festival (faulty audio - cannot be broadcast)
ep 159 July 16 1978 hosted by Jon English (exists as off air recording only)

The 43 broadcast quality surviving 70's episodes have been shown a combined total of 76 times with Aug 31 1975 (Sherbet) airing 5 times, July 8 1979 (Iggy Pop) 4 times, 6 others 3 times, 12 others have been shown twice and the rest at least once. As much as I love 70's episodes I do not want to keep seeing these episodes being repeated over and over when there are still so many from the 80's that have never aired on Rage, although I was glad to see 6 episodes shown on Sept 24 2016 for the Michael Shrimpton tribute.

For the 1980's I think it is as follows (Countdown Awards and Summer shows were not included in the numbering of episodes):

1980 47 episodes made, 33 shown, 2 believed missing with 12 still to air

226 February 10 1980 Ted Mulry (Ted Mulry Gang)
231 March 16 1980 Steve Gilpin (Mi-Sex)
237 April 27 1980 Gil Tucker (Cop Shop actor)
238 May 4 1980 Jon English
239 May 11 1980 Bob Geldof (Boomtown Rats)
240 (May 18 1980) Steve Gilpin (Mi-Sex) from Brisbane *****lost episode******
241 (May 25 1980) Bob Geldof (Boomtown Rats) replaced Gary Numan***lost ep***
243 June 8 1980 Darryl Cotton
245 June 22 1980 James Reyne (Australian Crawl)
247 July 6 1980 Patrick and Rockpile (Ol’ 55)
250 July 27 1980 John St Peeters
253 August 17 1980 Radio DJ’s in lead up to Xanadu
256 September 7 1980 Steve Gilpin (Mi Sex) + live bands
267 November 23 1980 Ross Wilson (Mondo Rock)

1981 46 episodes made, 34 shown with 12 still to air

272 February 15 1981 Dennis and Ray (Dr Hook)
275 March 8 1981 Molly (insert show due staging assistants strike)
283 May 3 1981 Greedy Smith (Mental As Anything)
290 June 21 1981 Jon English
291 June 28 1981 Daryl Cotton
296 August 9 1981 Craig Johnston (Mother Goose)
298 August 23 1981 Paul Northam (MEO 245)
- September 29 1981 Wendy Stapleton (Wendy & The Rocketts) (standby program)
304 October 4 1981 Swanee
307 October 25 1981 Sharon O’Neill
308 November 1 1981 Renee Geyer
314 December 13 1981 James Reyne (Australian Crawl)

1982 52 episodes made (summer shows pre-recorded in 1981), 37 shown with 15 still to air. Also at least 3 episodes - No. 10, 19 and 20 - of Countdown Friday (clip show hosted by John Peters) exist

- January 3 1982 Molly (Summer Special #3 New Zealand Invasion)
- January 10 1982 Molly (Summer Special #4 Export bands)
316 February 21 1982 Alex Smith (Moving Pictures)
327 May 9 1982 Martha Davis (The Motels)
330 May 30 1982 Ray and Dennis (Dr Hook)
336 July 11 1982 James Reyne (Australian Crawl)
341 August 15 1982 Greedy and Peter (Mental As Anything)
343 August 29 1982 Annalise Morrow (The Numbers)
344 September 5 1982 Billy Miller (The Great Blokes/ex Ferrets)
345 September 12 1982 John Farnham and Derek Pellicci (Little River Band)
346 September 19 1982 Globos
351 October 31 1982 no host (Advance Australia theme - songs introduced by live acts)
355 November 28 1982 Tim Finn
356 December 5 1982 Wendy Stapleton (Wendy & The Rocketts)
358 December 19 1982 Mental As Anything

1983 46 episodes made including two standby that were not aired at the time but one (ep 91 with Molly in vaults) since shown on Rage, 31 shown with 15 still to air assuming ep 367 exists. A few off air recordings of episodes of Countdown Flipside known to exist.

366 April 10 1983 Mark (aka comedian Bob Downe) and Wendy (Globos)
367 April 24 1983 episode not confirmed to exist - possibly missing
371 May 22 1983 no host
373 June 5 1983 Wendy Stapleton (Wendy & The Rocketts)
374 June 12 1983 Tim Finn
376 June 26 1983 Greedy Smith (Mental As Anything)
378 July 10 1983 John Hood (EONFM) and Keith Neill (Muir?) (7HT)
388 September 18 1983 James Reyne and Brad Robinson (Australian Crawl)
389 September 25 1983 Pat Wilson
390 October 2 1983 Marc Hunter (Dragon)
391 October 9 1983 David Sterry/Real Life
392 October 16 1983 Brian Mannix (Uncanny X-Men)
398 November 27 1983 James Reyne (Australian Crawl)
399 December 4 1983 Ross Wilson (Mondo Rock)
- December 5 1983 standby program of Molly’s favourite bands/videos

1984 48 episodes made, 39 shown with 9 still to air. Ep 432 Thriller Dance competition episode only known to exist in an off air recording, it may not be in the ABC archives.

404 February 19 1984 David Sterry and Richard Zatorski (Real Life)
405 February 26 1984 Alex Smith (Moving Pictures)
416 May 13 1984 Molly interviews Rod Stewart
417 May 20 1984 Marc Hunter (Dragon)
425 July 15 1984 State Heats Beatstreet competition
430 August 19 1984 David Reyne (Takeaways)
432 September 2 1984 Thriller Dance competition (not in ABC archives?)
438 October 14 1984 Los Trios Ringbarkus
442A November 17 1984 U2 Special


1985 47 episodes made, 27 shown with 20 still to air

449 February 10 1985 Kate Ceberano and Ian Cox (I’m Talking)
450 February 17 1985 Richard (No Nonsense) and Eric (Mondo Rock)
451 February 24 1985 Brian Mannix (Uncanny X-Men)
452 March 3 1985 Marc Hunter (Dragon)
460 April 28 1985 Ben (teenager)
463 May 26 1985 Meatloaf
464 June 2 1985 Brian Mannix (Uncanny X-Men)
467 June 23 1985 Sting
468 June 30 1985 Molly interviews David Lee Roth
469 July 7 1985 Angry Anderson
471 July 21 1985 Dave and Brad (Hoodoo Gurus)
474 August 11 1985 Howard Jones
478 September 8 1985 Richard Bruce (No Nonsense)
480 September 22 1985 no host
481 September 29 1985 Greedy Smith (Mental As Anything)
483 October 13 1985 Lyn Buckfield (Electric Pandas)
485 October 27 1985 Kids In The Kitchen
486 November 3 1985 Bob Geldof
489 November 24 1985 Brian Canham (Pseudo Echo)
- December 29 1985 Summer Show No 1

1986 51 episodes made (with 4 summer shows pre-recorded in 1985), 19 shown with 32 still to air. Ep 515 June 29 may be missing and ep 520 not made due to Commonwealth games.

- January 5 1986 Summer Show No 2
- January 12 1986 Summer Show No 3
- January 19 1986 Summer Show No 4
- January 26 1986 Summer Show No 5
496 February 16 1986 Martin Plaza (Mental As Anything)
497 February 23 1986 Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits)
499 March 9 1986 Molly (interviews Stevie Nicks)
500 March 16 1986 Tim Finn
501 March 23 1986 Bernie Lynch and Grace Knight (Eurogliders)
502 March 30 1986 Brian Mannix (Uncanny X-Men)
504 April 13 1986 Spencer and Billy (The Johnnys)
505 April 20 1986 Live program prior to Countdown Awards
506 April 27 1986 Robert Blackwood (Molly chose him at a Sting concert)
508 May 11 1986 Molly (interviews Lloyd Cole & The Commotions)
510 May 25 1986 Video Story Board Competition
511 June 1 1986 Martin Plaza (Mental As Anything)
513 June 15 1986 Brian Canham (Pseudo Echo)
514 June 22 1986 Replacement program - Oz For Africa highlights
515 June 29 1986 not known to exist but probably in ABC archives
516 July 6 1986 Molly (interviews in London)
521 August 10 1986 Molly (interviews Elton John re. Tour)
522 August 17 1986 Molly (interviews Elton John re. marriage)
523 August 24 1986 Molly (interviews Bananarama)
524 August 31 1986 Molly (interviews Neil Finn and Paul Hester)
525 September 7 1986 Molly (interviews Red Symons)
527 September 21 1986 Gavin Wood (live Uncanny X-Men, Dragon, Hoodoo Gurus, Reels)
528 September 28 1986 Stephen Cummings (insert show)
531 October 19 1986 Angry Anderson and Joe Cocker
532 October 26 1986 Molly (from Adelaide Grand Prix)
534 November 9 1986 Molly (interviews David Sylvian)
536 November 23 1986 Molly (Australian Made Tour)
538 December 7 1986 Brian Mannix (Uncanny X-Men)

1987 24 episodes made, 15 shown with 9 still to air

542 February 22 1987 David Reyne
543 March 1 1987 Dave Stewart (Eurythmics)
547 March 29 1987 Mondo Rock
548 April 5 1987 Paul Young
550 April 19 1987 Molly (from Underground disco)
552 May 3 1987 Molly (Georgia Satellites interview)
557 June 7 1987 Molly (live bands intro next segment)
559 June 21 1987 Greedy Smith and Red Symons
560 June 28 1987 Dave Dobbyn

I believe there are 399 episodes of Countdown that definitely exist with possibly 404 if 5 episodes that had not been archived actually do exist as we saw this year with the missing James Freud and Lene Lovich episodes airing.

Rage have aired 278 episodes after this weekend which will leave between 121 and 126 (depending on missing episodes) still to air. If Rage continue to show around 17 episodes per year we could see the remaining ones that haven't aired in the next 8 years but that may be being a little optimistic.

Re: Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

Thanks Guru Bob for that very detailed list, absolutely wonderful!


I knew that 1985 and 1985 episodes have been the least shown and that there are many from both years still to be repeated.



With the two standby that were not aired at the time in 1983, do you know what is on them? ... And as far as a few off air recordings of episodes of Countdown Flipside known to exist. They are not listed in my archives I got from ABC, so Flipsides do exist then?

Also, the Countdown Friday episodes from 1982, do any of them exist as they also are not listed in my archives


Re: Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

Thanks Guru. As I say every time I see these lists, we are due for a 1986 onslaught at some point

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There are still also many 1985 episodes to be played, one in particular which I have been nagging rage to play which I pasted below. I was hoping it would air this weekend as it's packed with FABULOUS studio performances. Though 1986 is indeed number 1 with the most episodes of Countdown's that haven't been repeated. The thing I want MOST from 1986 is THE MELDRUM TAPES - BANANARAMA EPISODE, how I loooong for it!

I hope they leave all 1987 episodes till the bitter end as they are simply ghastly, so glad there have been no 1987 Countdown's this year.


COUNTDOWN: Date: 27/10/1985
Show no: 485
Summary: THIS SHOW IS HOSTED BY MEMBERS FROM KIDS IN THE KITCHEN AND PRESENTS FTG OF MICHAEL JACKSON IN PERTH. MOLLY IV SCOTT FROM KIDS IN THE KITCHEN RE ALBUM.;
LIVE STUDIO PERFORMANCES:;
PSEUDO ECHO 'DON'T GO';
KIDS IN THE KITCHEN 'NOT THE WAY';
JOHN SWAN & BAND 'SAY YOU'LL DO SOMETHING';
VIDEO CLIPS FROM:
MARK EDWARDS, THE CURE, KATE BUSH, ICEHOUSE, RED BOX, SIMPLE MINDS AND MORE

Re: Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

Jason 'The Moderator"
Thanks Guru Bob for that very detailed list, absolutely wonderful!


I knew that 1985 and 1985 episodes have been the least shown and that there are many from both years still to be repeated.



With the two standby that were not aired at the time in 1983, do you know what is on them? ... And as far as a few off air recordings of episodes of Countdown Flipside known to exist. They are not listed in my archives I got from ABC, so Flipsides do exist then?

Also, the Countdown Friday episodes from 1982, do any of them exist as they also are not listed in my archives



I have only got a timecoded version of ep 19 Countdown Friday. The other 2 are listed on TARA so they exist but I don't know what's on them. They might have more that are not catalogued. It was only a 25min show.

Countdown Friday ep 19 recorded 3/12/1982, replay 10/12/1982 and hosted by John Peters was as follows:
Men At Work - Dr Heckyl & Mr Jive
INXS - Don't Change
Goanna - Solid Rock (live Countdown version)
The Sherbs - Shaping Up (live Countdown version)
Billy Field - True Love (live Countdown - no audience)
ABC - All Of My Heart
Supertramp - It's Raining Again

I don't have lists of what is on the 1983 Countdown Flipsides but remember that it was the only place that the Duran Duran live Countdown clip was shown as a request - it never actually aired on Countdown itself which was strange.

The two Standby programs from 1983 were:
The first one was recorded on August 22 1983 and was a replay of ep 91 Dec 12 1976 but with an intro of Molly pulling out a tape in the ABC archives. This episode was shown on Rage back in the 90's sometime but never actually aired at the time.
The second one was recorded Dec 5 1983 and consisted of Molly's favourite bands and videos but was never needed and as a result never aired. I have a timecoded copy of it as follows:
Olivia Newton-John - Physical
Elton John - I'm Still Standing
Split Enz - Six Months In A Leaky Boat
Billy Idol - Hot In The City
The Motels - Tale The 'L'
Simple Minds - Promised You A Miracle
Michael Jackson - Beat It
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams
Icehouse - Icehouse (live at Countdown Awards)
Human League - Don't You Want Me
David Bowie - China Girl
Duran Duran - Planet Earth
Men At Work Down Under
Molly reviews each clip and introduces the next one. It's basically a clips show of common videos.

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ohnoitisnathan
Thanks Guru. As I say every time I see these lists, we are due for a 1986 onslaught at some point

There are a few good episodes from 1986. I haven't requested anything since the old messageboard finished up and I don't care much for Facebook but may get back into it. I will try that Rage email that Patrick mentioned.

As Rage are doing a very good job in recent years of airing 15+ non-repeated episodes every January I am quite happy to accumulate the episodes this way as well. Sooner or later they will show them all I hope. They have got two episodes this year that I had previously requested - 1980 Ellen Foley and 1984 Eurogliders - but it may just be co-incidence as they are bound to play something we wanted at some stage by a process of elimination.

I would also like to see the remaining 1987 episodes. It was a horrible format with their Pirate TV styling (in a similar style to the equally ugly Countdown Revolution) but they had a lot more live performances on after 1985-86 had become a more video orientated format.

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Yes, I too find it very silly that Duran Duran with 'My Own Way' was never actually featured on a full Countdown episode in 1982 when Duran Duran were here hosting with Molly. Go figure ... I was SO glad when rage actually played it twice though, pheeeew. As I never understood why it wasn't on an actual episode. At least I have it so thanks rage!

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Thanks GuruBob - always useful to have the updated lists to tell us exactly where we are all at with this. Another very good Summer of Countdowns about to reach its conclusion and another 17 shows never screened before on Rage so very good overall.

With regards to Countdown Friday, yes looks like only 3 episodes in total have survived at all. It wasnt a particularly exciting show, just playing video clips that would normally have made it to Countdown shows but due to lack of time and space they ended up showing them on the alternative show instead. It was only for a period of 1982 that this show lasted, and of course you see the little yellow logo "Countdown Friday" occassionally plastered across the screen during a partial play on a regular Countdown episode which indicated that you could catch the full length version on the following Fridays show. I think we saw this on one of the 1982 shows screened this Summer.

Countdown Flipside was a clip request show (hosted by John Peters), from the 1983 period but I think it finished up at the end of 1983. I dont think any episodes were retained - I do have a few domestic recordings on VHS though including a couple of full shows and many partials. I used to tape clips a lot back in the day. One of the episodes has an old football finals 1983 score plastered across the screen I do recall that. I am sure I transferred all those to DVD a while back, will need to recheck. Interesting that they could be the only surviving copies, maybe Id better get copies back to the ABC!!

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Regarding Friday Countdowns, the Kent Music Report (who compiled a national chart from 1974 to 1998, with ARIA licensing it between mid-1983 and mid-June 1988) published Countdown playlists. Here's one with a Friday playlist, thanks to Brad:



edit - coincidentally, this is the same one that Guru Bob mentioned above, though missing the clips that weren't shown in all states.

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Brett (2)

You have full episodes of Countdown Flipside!

WOW

So you had a VCR in 1983 and could afford to record full shows seeing videotape was ,mega expensive then.

How FABULOUS!!!!!

I knwo Countdown Friday was only around a short time in 1982 but sometimes some of the clips shown in Humdrum on the Sunday would say with the yellow strip 'Countdown Friday' for the following Friday. So sometimes some more rarer clips made it to Countdown Friday. Again, the Duran Duran COUNTDOWN performance of My Own Way was one of them only shown on Countdown Friday. rage have that performance and they have played it twice luckily as I wanted it for years and was never ab;e to locate it on any 1982 episode.

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Here's the earliest Flipside program I saw listed in the Kent Report:

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Wow, see I thought Flipside sometimes played some rare things.


Yuki Takahashi with Murdered By The Music, that was only played in a Hundrum on Countdown. Glad that Sardine V and Sandie Shaw got an extra play as well as they only both got played once on Countdown.

And YAY, Like A Ghost got played again. I don't know the Boys Brigade track ...

And The Numbers with Big Beat

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Here's one with a Monitors song for which no video (or even an audio-only clip) is on YouTube:

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Jason 'The Moderator"
Wow, see I thought Flipside sometimes played some rare things.


Yuki Takahashi with Murdered By The Music, that was only played in a Hundrum on Countdown. Glad that Sardine V and Sandie Shaw got an extra play as well as they only both got played once on Countdown.

And YAY, Like A Ghost got played again. I don't know the Boys Brigade track ...

And The Numbers with Big Beat


I should have mentioned - (P) means only a partial video was shown. The Sunday show is just the regular Countdown; the Friday playlist is the Flipside.

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ohnoitisnathan
Here's one with a Monitors song for which no video (or even an audio-only clip) is on YouTube:


Nathan
I have just uploaded the last two videos that The Monitors released as they are quite rare. They were on YouTube for a very short time about 6 years ago and I was fortunate that Lee managed to rip them for me before they disappeared. I don't know why they were removed but in case they get removed and they are of interest to you I suggest that you copy them.

Who Did You Think It Was? released August 1982
https://youtu.be/UtGFY72ZYus

Having You Around released December 1982
https://youtu.be/_FuQeqx0RAc

Guitarist Mark Moffat (not to be confused with Matt Moffitt of the band Matt Finish) went on to become a successful producer and is seen later in the 80's on Countdown Awards shows winning awards for his producing for bands such as Mondo Rock, Mental As Anything, The Saints, Tim Finn, Renee Geyer, Jimmy & The Boys etc.

Singer Terry McCarthy went on to be a successful advertising executive according to wikipedia

Ricky Fataar also went on to produce for a number of bands such as Crowded House, Jenny Morris and Wendy Matthews.

Gayle and Gillian Blakeney appeared in all 4 of the clips (although Kim Durant did the vocals that they mimed to on Singing In The 80's) before going on to host Wombat and appear on Neighbours

That Friday Countdown Sept 17 1982 episode would have been nice to get as it also has Eurogliders - Laughing Matter and Peter Cupples on it.

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WOW, No Laughing Matter by Eurogliders video. Such a stunning clip, it was on You Tube in pretty poor shape but was amazing to see.



I also got the Monitors videos off Lee some years ago as well, they are so BRILLIANT!

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Guru Bob

Nathan
I have just uploaded the last two videos that The Monitors released as they are quite rare. They were on YouTube for a very short time about 6 years ago and I was fortunate that Lee managed to rip them for me before they disappeared. I don't know why they were removed but in case they get removed and they are of interest to you I suggest that you copy them.

Who Did You Think It Was? released August 1982
https://youtu.be/UtGFY72ZYus

Having You Around released December 1982
https://youtu.be/_FuQeqx0RAc

Guitarist Mark Moffat (not to be confused with Matt Moffitt of the band Matt Finish) went on to become a successful producer and is seen later in the 80's on Countdown Awards shows winning awards for his producing for bands such as Mondo Rock, Mental As Anything, The Saints, Tim Finn, Renee Geyer, Jimmy & The Boys etc.

Singer Terry McCarthy went on to be a successful advertising executive according to wikipedia

Ricky Fataar also went on to produce for a number of bands such as Crowded House, Jenny Morris and Wendy Matthews.

Gayle and Gillian Blakeney appeared in all 4 of the clips (although Kim Durant did the vocals that they mimed to on Singing In The 80's) before going on to host Wombat and appear on Neighbours

That Friday Countdown Sept 17 1982 episode would have been nice to get as it also has Eurogliders - Laughing Matter and Peter Cupples on it.



Thanks for that. My guess is that those videos weren't specifically removed, but that the user who uploaded them's account was probably suspended after receiving 3 non-expired copyright strikes. Copyright strikes now expire after a set no. of months (I think it's 6 months for the first one; the time extends if you get a second strike before the first has expired, and you lose your account when you get 3 non-expired strikes); originally they never expired, and if you got 3 strikes ever, your account was terminated. It's why I now have 77 channels and counting I haven't lost a channel since spreading videos across multiple channels; though I've had many more than 3 strikes across the channels combined in that time.

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Here's another one that may be of interest. They're not listed in every Kent Report (or maybe Flipside wasn't on every Friday?); some weeks they just have the Sunday playlist, or the 2 most-recent Sunday episodes.

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Thanks Guru Bob for the Monitors videos, I'd never seen or heard those songs before. It's great that they kept the continuity of having the Blakeney twins in all 4 videos.

Nathan, I just noticed in that latest Countdown scan, a single by The Dugites I'd never heard of. Seems they had quite a few non-charting singles between their hits.

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Does anyone know why Divinyls 'Only Lonely' was 'LP only' in Australia (as is listed on one of those Countdown playlists)? I heard it a lot on radio, and there were 2 music videos filmed for it. It seems strange that they didn't release it as a single locally, as it no doubt would have been a big (well, top 20 probably) hit for them.

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I always assumed that 'Only Lonely' had been a single, due to the airplay it received. Being "LP only" would explain why it didn't chart, and it isn't listed on 45cat either.



267 November 23 1980 Ross Wilson (Mondo Rock)
< I hope they play this episode one day, as it contains the only known performance by Tina Turner of 'Are You Breaking My Heart' (which exists on youtube in fuzzy VHS quality from a TV1 (Foxtel) broadcast of just the clip, as they did sometimes between non-music tv shows.

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ohnoitisnathan
Does anyone know why Divinyls 'Only Lonely' was 'LP only' in Australia (as is listed on one of those Countdown playlists)? I heard it a lot on radio, and there were 2 music videos filmed for it. It seems strange that they didn't release it as a single locally, as it no doubt would have been a big (well, top 20 probably) hit for them.

It wasn't released as a single itself but was part of the Casual Encounter 3 track single as a B Side in August 1983 - over a year after it was performed on Countdown. It originally appeared on the Monkey Grip album. It was released as a single in the US and Japan but not in Australia.
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ohnoitisnathan
My guess is that those videos weren't specifically removed, but that the user who uploaded them's account was probably suspended after receiving 3 non-expired copyright strikes. Copyright strikes now expire after a set no. of months (I think it's 6 months for the first one; the time extends if you get a second strike before the first has expired, and you lose your account when you get 3 non-expired strikes); originally they never expired, and if you got 3 strikes ever, your account was terminated. It's why I now have 77 channels and counting I haven't lost a channel since spreading videos across multiple channels; though I've had many more than 3 strikes across the channels combined in that time.

With the ContentID system (where copyright content is automatically detected, and copyright owners set monetisation rules and get a tiny amount of revenue per play) you have to try pretty hard to get a copyright strike, or be very unlucky.

First, if something is not even detected by ContentID (I suspect those two Monitors clips are unknown ) then it is unlikely you'll get hit. The only way would be for the copyright owner to manually discover you've uploaded it and file a compliant - there is no automatic notification to them because YouTube didn't detect any copyrighted content.

Uploading something that is blocked worldwide by the ContentID system, and then publishing it, is the easiest way to get a strike. You need to check your Video Manager after uploading to see whether what you just uploaded is blocked worldwide. If is it, don't push the "publish" button. If you never publish the video you won't get a copyright strike because no-one else can find them. I have about ten videos on my channel that are blocked worldwide that I've never published.

You can get unlucky and have stuff that is permitted according to the ContentID system, but then have action taken against it anyway. This happened to me a few times, usually a video that a record company decided to officially upload years after I had, but back in the days when if you deleted that video you immediately got your good standing back.

Nowadays deleting the video won't help. I've only ever got one strike (takedown notice), and that was for uploading a video that is for sale on iTunes (but I didn't realise it at the time, and the ContentID system didn't say it was blocked worldwide, which is normally the case for videos that are on iTunes).

I served out my 6 months and have been more careful since. I'm still on my original channel after 8 years. If it ever gets shut down, I'm probably done with YouTube, I couldn't be bothered doing it all again.

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Jason 'The Moderator"
WOW, No Laughing Matter by Eurogliders video. Such a stunning clip, it was on You Tube in pretty poor shape but was amazing to see.

Yes, WOW, we must all request that Countdown Episode be played next retro season (if ABC still has it?). That clip is so rare, and the song itself has never been released on CD or any digital source.

I had a go on my channel at 'fixing up' the poor quality YouTube rips of that clip, the end result is slightly better but still not great. I would so love an HQ copy

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Guru Bob

1982 52 episodes made (summer shows pre-recorded in 1981), 37 shown with 15 still to air. Also at least 3 episodes - No. 10, 19 and 20 - of Countdown Friday (clip show hosted by John Peters) exist

- January 3 1982 Molly (Summer Special #3 New Zealand Invasion)
- January 10 1982 Molly (Summer Special #4 Export bands)
316 February 21 1982 Alex Smith (Moving Pictures)
327 May 9 1982 Martha Davis (The Motels)
330 May 30 1982 Ray and Dennis (Dr Hook)
336 July 11 1982 James Reyne (Australian Crawl)
341 August 15 1982 Greedy and Peter (Mental As Anything)
343 August 29 1982 Annalise Morrow (The Numbers)
344 September 5 1982 Billy Miller (The Great Blokes/ex Ferrets)
345 September 12 1982 John Farnham and Derek Pellicci (Little River Band)
346 September 19 1982 Globos
351 October 31 1982 no host (Advance Australia theme - songs introduced by live acts)
355 November 28 1982 Tim Finn
356 December 5 1982 Wendy Stapleton (Wendy & The Rocketts)
358 December 19 1982 Mental As Anything


Edit - Due to Rage broadcasting the wrong episode :

1982 52 episodes made (summer shows pre-recorded in 1981), 36 shown with 16 still to air. Also at least 3 episodes - No. 10, 19 and 20 - of Countdown Friday (clip show hosted by John Peters) exist

- January 3 1982 Molly (Summer Special #3 New Zealand Invasion)
- January 10 1982 Molly (Summer Special #4 Export bands)
316 February 21 1982 Alex Smith (Moving Pictures)
323 April 11 1982 Ross O’Donovan & Jo Kennedy (Starstruck)
327 May 9 1982 Martha Davis (The Motels)
330 May 30 1982 Ray and Dennis (Dr Hook)
336 July 11 1982 James Reyne (Australian Crawl)
341 August 15 1982 Greedy and Peter (Mental As Anything)
343 August 29 1982 Annalise Morrow (The Numbers)
344 September 5 1982 Billy Miller (The Great Blokes/ex Ferrets)
345 September 12 1982 John Farnham and Derek Pellicci (Little River Band)
346 September 19 1982 Globos
351 October 31 1982 no host (Advance Australia theme - songs introduced by live acts)
355 November 28 1982 Tim Finn
356 December 5 1982 Wendy Stapleton (Wendy & The Rocketts)
358 December 19 1982 Mental As Anything

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Clip Magnet
Jason 'The Moderator"
WOW, No Laughing Matter by Eurogliders video. Such a stunning clip, it was on You Tube in pretty poor shape but was amazing to see.

Yes, WOW, we must all request that Countdown Episode be played next retro season (if ABC still has it?). That clip is so rare, and the song itself has never been released on CD or any digital source.

I had a go on my channel at 'fixing up' the poor quality YouTube rips of that clip, the end result is slightly better but still not great. I would so love an HQ copy

That was episode 9 of Countdown Friday which I have no record of it existing. It's only due to the Kent Report publishing it and Brad ans Nathan sharing that information that we know what was on that episode unless Molly happened to mention it in Humdrum as he often would.

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Jason 'The Moderator"
Brett (2)

You have full episodes of Countdown Flipside!

WOW

So you had a VCR in 1983 and could afford to record full shows seeing videotape was ,mega expensive then.

How FABULOUS!!!!!

I knwo Countdown Friday was only around a short time in 1982 but sometimes some of the clips shown in Humdrum on the Sunday would say with the yellow strip 'Countdown Friday' for the following Friday. So sometimes some more rarer clips made it to Countdown Friday. Again, the Duran Duran COUNTDOWN performance of My Own Way was one of them only shown on Countdown Friday. rage have that performance and they have played it twice luckily as I wanted it for years and was never ab;e to locate it on any 1982 episode.




It was only by commencing work full time in late 1982 that suddenly wonderful things like VCR's and blank tapes became affordable for me. The VHS recorder I bought was a wonderful bit of modern technology for the time, it was hard to believe that I could actually KEEP things that I saw on TV at the time. The blank videotapes were **** expensive at the time, you were right and the price didnt really drop much until later in 1983 and into 1984. So in the early days one tended to try and conserve precious tape space as much as one could, by only recording music clips you liked or wanted to keep and deleting other stuff. As a result, it was rare to tape complete episodes of anything at the time. Certainly with Countdown episodes all I tended to tape was individual performances never complete shows. A pity in hindsight but those of us around at the time will know and understand the logic and reasons for this.

With "Countdown Flipside" hosted by John Peters, I recall it ran late on a Saturday afternoon back in 1983 and I was often rostered to be at work while it was screened. So the VCR timer device came in handy, I would set it for the time the show was on and then be able to check it when I got home. This meant of course I taped the whole show and couldnt edit it down generally. I still chopped up a number of shows sadly, especially if there was only one or two clips I really wanted to keep, so often I would tape over the bits I didnt want (again just in the interests of preserving tape space) and so I would be left with a patch-up job of clips which left nasty static and tracking bits and interference as one show was taped over with another. The beauty of ancient VCR's!! Lol

What I am left with though is a few complete Flipside shows, of which the ABC most certainly no longer have in their archives. They would be from the period August-September 1983.

I will seek these out as soon as I get back home up country Tuesday and post the details. Will be happy to share the episodes with whoever wants a copy too.

Regards

Brett

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ohnoitisnathan
Here's another one that may be of interest. They're not listed in every Kent Report (or maybe Flipside wasn't on every Friday?); some weeks they just have the Sunday playlist, or the 2 most-recent Sunday episodes.




Hi Nathan

This is wonderful stuff, I had no idea Kent Music Report published such information. Really great documentation for the era which otherwise would remain unknown.

A few points for everyone here though.

"Countdown Friday" was the separate Countdown show shown on Fridays during 1982. Hosted by John Peters. It would probably not have screened every Friday. All they did was show clips and performances. The unique Duran Duran studio performance comes from one of those "Friday" shows. It appears that only 3 episodes survive in full, there could be others plus segments etc though. One timecoded one has circulated over the years. This show did not screen beyond 1982 that I know of.

In 1983 the show "Countdown Flipside" started screening but was gone by the end of that year. Also hosted by John Peters it was purely a clip request show, with the name of the person requesting the clip displayed briefly on screen. They would play both current and older clips, some very old. Because of the tendency to screen older clips, this was the show that was of real interest to me at the time. It was hosted by John Peters and screened late Saturday afternoons around 4.30 to 5.00

I am not aware of any episodes surviving.

Nathan are there any other Countdown details available on Kent Music Report, or even any Countdown Flipsides from 1983 for that matter? Any more information would be very welcomed.

Cheers

Regards

Brett

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Clip Magnet

With the ContentID system (where copyright content is automatically detected, and copyright owners set monetisation rules and get a tiny amount of revenue per play) you have to try pretty hard to get a copyright strike, or be very unlucky.

First, if something is not even detected by ContentID (I suspect those two Monitors clips are unknown ) then it is unlikely you'll get hit. The only way would be for the copyright owner to manually discover you've uploaded it and file a compliant - there is no automatic notification to them because YouTube didn't detect any copyrighted content.

Uploading something that is blocked worldwide by the ContentID system, and then publishing it, is the easiest way to get a strike. You need to check your Video Manager after uploading to see whether what you just uploaded is blocked worldwide. If is it, don't push the "publish" button. If you never publish the video you won't get a copyright strike because no-one else can find them. I have about ten videos on my channel that are blocked worldwide that I've never published.


The record company/rights owner can change their mind, and a copyright ID video that is initially permitted on YouTube can later be blocked.

I've had a couple of strikes where the video was copyright ID identified, but allowed by the record company... but then the artist themselves (Kym Mazelle) or an agent acting on their behalf (Prince's sister for Quindon Tarver's 'When Doves Cry', Meat Loaf's touring company for the 'Nowhere Fast' music video), who technically don't own the copyright but I wasn't willing to file a counter-notice against them, filed a takedown notice months after I uploaded the videos (over a year for the Kym Mazelle one), and the video was removed. I've also received a strike in a similar situation from a publishing company who wrongly identified the track (Gary Clail's 'Human Nature'), and appealed it and got the video back.

It doesn't matter about publishing a video that is instantly blocked through copyright detection; that doesn't count as a strike against your account. Copyright strikes only occur when you receive a takedown notice. You'll know, because you have to complete 'copyright school' before being allowed to access your YouTube account. A video that is instantly (or even later) blocked worldwide does not count as a strike - the video has to be removed from YouTube.

Re: Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

Clip Magnet
Jason 'The Moderator"
WOW, No Laughing Matter by Eurogliders video. Such a stunning clip, it was on You Tube in pretty poor shape but was amazing to see.

Yes, WOW, we must all request that Countdown Episode be played next retro season (if ABC still has it?). That clip is so rare, and the song itself has never been released on CD or any digital source.

I had a go on my channel at 'fixing up' the poor quality YouTube rips of that clip, the end result is slightly better but still not great. I would so love an HQ copy


Maybe the ABC have the video lurking in their archives, and could air it as a standalone video, which would be even better.

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By the way, the Kent Report info I have posted is from scans done by the National Library of Australia (they offer a scanning service for a fee). Brad obtained some of these after requesting the new releases/hit predictions sections of the Kent Report from 1982-3. There are no Countdown playlists I've seen on the scans from the second half of 1983; maybe they were on a different page, or no longer included. But theoretically, the Kent Music Report could contain playlists for some of the Countdowns where no archival information is available on TARA.

My understanding is that these lists were published after the event - so the episode actually had to air before it was included in the Kent Report. For some weeks in 1982, the playlists for 2 weeks of Countdown are listed in the same section, so maybe it wasn't included every week.

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Brett (2) If you find the full Flipside episodes I's love copies, I can pay you for them.

We didn't get a VCR till 1985 and I also had to really limit and be fussy with what I recorded as video tapes were expensive and sometimes after tapes were full I'd have to re record over some things as well, arghhhhh. It's amazing the technology we have now compared to then. We can now record limitless amounts of material but unfortunately, the content then was GENIUS and now it isn't. So all we have is January for Countdown's to be recorded and the occasional VAULTS when rage play some RARE vintage pieces

Re: Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

Brett (2)

Nathan are there any other Countdown details available on Kent Music Report, or even any Countdown Flipsides from 1983 for that matter? Any more information would be very welcomed.


I've posted those Brad obtained in the new thread for these started by Guru Bob. Nothing from 1983 as yet.

Re: Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

ohnoitisnathan
Brett (2)

Nathan are there any other Countdown details available on Kent Music Report, or even any Countdown Flipsides from 1983 for that matter? Any more information would be very welcomed.


I've posted those Brad obtained in the new thread for these started by Guru Bob. Nothing from 1983 as yet.


Glad the information is proving useful to people. I had no idea before today that the extra Countdown playlists were missing from the archives!

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ohnoitisnathan
It doesn't matter about publishing a video that is instantly blocked through copyright detection; that doesn't count as a strike against your account. Copyright strikes only occur when you receive a takedown notice.

OK they must have changed the rules. I once uploaded the Cruel Sea's "Honeymoon Is Over" video because I couldn't find it on YouTube anywhere, and got instantly hit with a Copyright Violation and on my Copyright page I was "not in good standing". It turns out that video is sold on iTunes and is blocked worldwide.

Since then, I have never dared to publish anything that is blocked worldwide.

Re: Episodes of Countdown that Rage have not aired (2017 update)

Clip Magnet
ohnoitisnathan
It doesn't matter about publishing a video that is instantly blocked through copyright detection; that doesn't count as a strike against your account. Copyright strikes only occur when you receive a takedown notice.

OK they must have changed the rules. I once uploaded the Cruel Sea's "Honeymoon Is Over" video because I couldn't find it on YouTube anywhere, and got instantly hit with a Copyright Violation and on my Copyright page I was "not in good standing". It turns out that video is sold on iTunes and is blocked worldwide.

Since then, I have never dared to publish anything that is blocked worldwide.


Oh yes, they changed that a while ago. But even then, those weren't strikes - they just restricted some of the functions on your account, e.g. you weren't allowed to have unlisted or private videos for a specified period of time (I think 3 months, maybe 6), and you weren't allowed to monetise videos (this last one still might be true, as I don't monetise them).

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Wow just read the entire thread and am so impressed with all of the info and resources that people have gone through. I would love to see Countdown Flipside shows replayed if possible also maybe as tv fillers through out the year on ch 2 though I doubt very much that is going to happen. I too can relate to copywrite strikes on You Tube and over a period of time I just decided not to bother anymore. Too much time and effort spent only to lose an account altogether. I deal with Dailymotion and Vimeo now and have to this time had no such trouble. As much as You Tube is wonderful to browse for classic content of whatever source you can want they are a complete pain in the **** to deal with as an account holder so it is for that reason I have chosen not to deal with them anymore.

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Scott
Wow just read the entire thread and am so impressed with all of the info and resources that people have gone through. I would love to see Countdown Flipside shows replayed if possible also maybe as tv fillers through out the year on ch 2 though I doubt very much that is going to happen. I too can relate to copywrite strikes on You Tube and over a period of time I just decided not to bother anymore. Too much time and effort spent only to lose an account altogether. I deal with Dailymotion and Vimeo now and have to this time had no such trouble. As much as You Tube is wonderful to browse for classic content of whatever source you can want they are a complete pain in the **** to deal with as an account holder so it is for that reason I have chosen not to deal with them anymore.


Yeah, I noticed that one of your channels with a lot of Australian female artist content went down late last year. I've since uploaded some of the videos that were on it (from my own sources).