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Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Dexter
What songs did they play? I have it on hard drive but can't be arsed to check it from here.

Never mind I just scrolled up lol


Nice one Dexter heehee

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Tonight's Vault theme is covers vs. originals, 12:35am-3:06am ABC:

TEARS FOR FEARS Mad World
MICHAEL ANDREWS featuring GARY JULES Mad World
THE CHURCH Under The Milky Way
STRAWPEOPLE Under The Milky Way
NEW ORDER Bizarre Love Triangle
FRENTE Bizarre Love Triangle
ALPHAVILLE Forever Young
YOUTH GROUP Forever Young
THE KNIFE Heartbeats
JOSE GONZALEZ Heartbeats
TALK TALK It's My Life
NO DOUBT It's My Life
THE GO-GOS Our Lips Are Sealed
FUN BOY THREE Our Lips Are Sealed
THE LAS There She Goes
SIXPENCE NONE THE RICHER There She Goes
CYNDI LAUPER I Drove All Night
ROY ORBISON I Drove All Night
GODLEY and CREME Cry
LISA EDWARDS Cry
GODLEY and CREME An Englishman In New York
STING An Englishman In New York
THE POLICE Every Breath You Take
PUFF DADDY and FAITH EVANS I'll Be Missing You
BRUCE HORNSBY AND THE RANGE The Way It Is
2 PAC Changes
AFRIKA BAMBAATAA and THE SOUL SONIC FORCE Renegades Of Funk
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Renegades Of Funk
GEORGE BENSON On Broadway
GARY NUMAN On Broadway
ROBERT PALMER Addicted To Love
CICCONE YOUTH Addicted To Love
THELMA HOUSTON Don't Leave Me This Way
THE COMMUNARDS Don't Leave Me This Way
CAMEO Word Up
KORN Word Up
GEORGE MICHAEL Faith
LIMP BIZKIT Faith



Although the Sting track is not a cover; they're completely different songs

Will be interesting to see if they play the original Thelma Houston video or the '95 remix as being the 'original'.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

I'll be interested in the clips from:
Lisa Edwards - Cry
Alphaville - Forever young
Sixpence non the richer - There she goes
Godley and Creme - Englishman in new york
Bruce Hornsby and the Range - The way it is

Does anyone know if they're going to repeat Elton John's "I guess that's why they call it the blues"? They trashed the original 3/4 landscape aspect on saturday night, so if I have a second chance, I can record it in 16/9. I wish they would stop screwing around with the original video clip aspects from the 80s.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

ohnoitisnathan
Tonight's Vault theme is covers vs. originals, 12:35am-3:06am ABC:

TEARS FOR FEARS Mad World
MICHAEL ANDREWS featuring GARY JULES Mad World
THE CHURCH Under The Milky Way
STRAWPEOPLE Under The Milky Way
NEW ORDER Bizarre Love Triangle
FRENTE Bizarre Love Triangle
ALPHAVILLE Forever Young
YOUTH GROUP Forever Young
THE KNIFE Heartbeats
JOSE GONZALEZ Heartbeats
TALK TALK It's My Life
NO DOUBT It's My Life
THE GO-GOS Our Lips Are Sealed
FUN BOY THREE Our Lips Are Sealed
THE LAS There She Goes
SIXPENCE NONE THE RICHER There She Goes
CYNDI LAUPER I Drove All Night
ROY ORBISON I Drove All Night
GODLEY and CREME Cry
LISA EDWARDS Cry
GODLEY and CREME An Englishman In New York
STING An Englishman In New York
THE POLICE Every Breath You Take
PUFF DADDY and FAITH EVANS I'll Be Missing You
BRUCE HORNSBY AND THE RANGE The Way It Is
2 PAC Changes
AFRIKA BAMBAATAA and THE SOUL SONIC FORCE Renegades Of Funk
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Renegades Of Funk
GEORGE BENSON On Broadway
GARY NUMAN On Broadway
ROBERT PALMER Addicted To Love
CICCONE YOUTH Addicted To Love
THELMA HOUSTON Don't Leave Me This Way
THE COMMUNARDS Don't Leave Me This Way
CAMEO Word Up
KORN Word Up
GEORGE MICHAEL Faith
LIMP BIZKIT Faith



Although the Sting track is not a cover; they're completely different songs

Will be interesting to see if they play the original Thelma Houston video or the '95 remix as being the 'original'.


Interesting concept

These three are certainties for me

Tears For Fears
Roy Orbison
New Order

Go-Go's vs Fun Boy Three is probably the only draw

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Mark from 2PR FM
Does anyone know if they're going to repeat Elton John's "I guess that's why they call it the blues"? They trashed the original 3/4 landscape aspect on saturday night, so if I have a second chance, I can record it in 16/9. I wish they would stop screwing around with the original video clip aspects from the 80s.


They repeat some of Saturday night's guest programmer/special segment on ABC on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. This week it runs from midnight to 2:15am Wednesday. So they'll probably re-air 2 Countdown episodes + some filler videos; the Elton clip may be among them.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

With covers, Fun Boy Three over Go Go's for sure. With Mad World, there is only ONE Mad World in the world and that is Tears For Fears, the end .

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Yeah the Gary Jules version turns a classic synth pop song into a dreary dirge

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Sorry, but IMO, the Go-Go's ****s on Fun Boy Three's! I recall it being in Rolling Stones Top 500 Greatest Singles of All Time. A perfect pop song in 3 minutes and for me, well I never get sick of listening to it. I'm just glad they didn't programme the Hilary and Haylie Duff version from 2004. What a joke that was.

The Gary Jules version of 'Mad World' was a UK Christmas No.1 in 2003. I agree, too slow and dreary.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

I'm wondering if this is really worth recording. Clips in different aspect ratios - old stuff v new stuff. I think I would have conniptions.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

That's funny that they are playing two completely different Englishman In New Yorks, how amateur.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Michael
I'm wondering if this is really worth recording. Clips in different aspect ratios - old stuff v new stuff. I think I would have conniptions.


These clips will definitely be enlarged to widescreen:

FRENTE Bizarre Love Triangle
ALPHAVILLE Forever Young
FUN BOY THREE Our Lips Are Sealed

as they have been enlarged when aired on rage in recent years.


The Strawpeople clip shouldn't be, because it has some 4:3 scenes (despite otherwise being set in an old TV-frame style setting)... but knowing rage, it could well be.


They did some zooming in again on the 1985 Countdown episode, I just saw (the Belouis Some and Thompson Twins videos Though apparently it's Media Hub and not rage's doing).

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Brad
That's funny that they are playing two completely different Englishman In New Yorks, how amateur.


Yeah, a few people (including myself) have pointed it out on the rage Facebook page. Even just listening to the songs for 5 seconds would make it obvious they're completely different.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Nathan, do you think you could upload Lisa Edwards 'Cry' to YouTube? There is a really bad VHS upload from the rage Top 60.of 1992.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Michael
Nathan, do you think you could upload Lisa Edwards 'Cry' to YouTube? There is a really bad VHS upload from the rage Top 60.of 1992.


Michael, I uploaded it here in 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgwfdK84YOE from one of the Video Hits DVD's.

It doesn't appear in the search results though when you search for 'lisa edwards cry' - presumably youtube think my upload is a duplicate of that version you mention Unfortunately that happens from time to time (and is completely unpredictable). Actually, I think the uploader of the other video is a member here.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Nathan, your video is searchable through google, but not youtube itself (there's also a Wheatleyrecords version uploaded since yours). Funny too that Lisa Edward's own channel only has 3 videos, not including Cry.

Your upload is excellent, youtube's own search needs to pull their socks up.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Brad
Nathan, your video is searchable through google, but not youtube itself (there's also a Wheatleyrecords version uploaded since yours). Funny too that Lisa Edward's own channel only has 3 videos, not including Cry.

Your upload is excellent, youtube's own search needs to pull their socks up.


I usually add a few chorus lyrics to the video description, to help people who don't know the exact title find it, and it gets some hits from people searching for 'you make me wanna cry' as a result. It has just over half of the views of the much lower quality version.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Michael
I'm wondering if this is really worth recording. Clips in different aspect ratios - old stuff v new stuff. I think I would have conniptions.

Just record everything in 16:9. Done.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Um, record everything in 16.9?

I think not, 4.3 clips will have bars and logo all messed with, so just keep the 4.3 and trash the rest.

OR

Get Foxtel and get an IQ box. It is so handy. You can change ratios as they should be, so the 4.3 clips can be in 4.3 and the 16.9 clips can be in 16.9 for each individual clip after recorded, so it doesn't matter what ratio's rage stuff things up with as you can record them to your DVD recorder and then on to disc as you like


OR

Own 2 DVD Recorders and record one in 4.3 and the other in 16.9 and then divide and edit the clips that need editing, so the 4.3 clips are in the right ratio and the 16.9 clips are not cut off on the title. I do that as well


It takes work but perfection doesn't come easy. One recording is always going to be a problem with aspect ratios, so 2 is a must if you like things as they should be

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

I believe 4:3 is standard for all clips on licensed DVD's. You don't see vertical black bars on the screen when these clips are played. You always get the full screen utilised no matter which media device you use. This is why I choose 4:3 for all the old clips.
At home I still have some CRT TV's with 4:3 screen. If my Countdowns were in 16:9, the picture would be too squished due to the inclusion of the vertical black bars.
However everyone has different circumstances so it's all about what is the most suitable preference.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

In the pre-watermark days, I would often sit up quite late on Saturday night (occasionally to 6am) to watch rage live so that I could switch between aspect ratios as needed. The worst was when there were 2 adjacent videos I wanted that would air in different aspect ratios - as then I'd have to choose which one I wanted more (or which one I thought rage were least likely to ever air again). Sometimes it worked out, when there was a guest programmer talking about a video in between the adjacent clips.

There's little need to do this now, given that anything recorded in widescreen or letterboxed 4:3 (other than on the ABC3 repeats) will have a watermark on it - so it's only if there's something *really* rare I want and have no other source for that I will do this.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

I do have Foxtel, but no IQ. Something to look into. I pretty much only keep vids from the 70s & 80s, so i.just change the aspect ratio to 4:3 on the Foxtel setup when recording vids from that era on rage. Oh yeah, and i have 2 HDD Recorders.

Thanks Nathan for the Cry video on YouTube. You're the man!

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Okay,

So if you have 2 DVD recorders, set one in 4.3 and the other in 16.9 when recording and problem solved

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Jason 'The Moderator'
Um, record everything in 16.9? I think not, 4.3 clips will have bars and logo all messed with, so just keep the 4.3 and trash the rest.

By that comment I mean just record the raw, unprocessed, digital TV stream (which is an MPEG stream, 8 Mbps, 720x576 pixels). But then again I record directly to my PC's hard disk using a computer DVB-T tuner, I do not use a DVD recorder which may may re-encode or transcode the raw TV stream into something else. So your mileage may vary...

By recording the raw stream, there is no need to worry about the aspect ratio of the underlying content. I can post-process to my heart's content, e.g. re-encode pillarboxed 4:3 content to native 4:3 without black bars or watermarks. It does require the right software though and a bit of time and effort.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Frank FM
I believe 4:3 is standard for all clips on licensed DVD's. You don't see vertical black bars on the screen when these clips are played. You always get the full screen utilised no matter which media device you use. This is why I choose 4:3 for all the old clips.

That's not quite right. In the MPEG-2 standard, all SD content is 720 × 576 pixels, regardless of the underlying aspect ratio. There is a separate flag in the MPEG header which indicates the aspect ratio of the pixels (MPEG-2 pixels are not square) in order to present the content as 4:3, or 16:9, or 1:1, or 2.21:1 (only 4 aspect ratios are defined in the standard).

When put on a DVD, there is a separate flag in the DVD VOB file which tells the DVD player how the content creator would like to present the MPEG-2 content on different shaped screens. The three options are 4:3, 4:3 Pan & Scan, and 16:9. Often these can also be set by the user in the player's menu settings and override what's on the DVD.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Clip Magnet, do you work in IT? All that stuff goes way over my head.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Michael
Clip Magnet, do you work in IT? All that stuff goes way over my head.

Sort of - I'm an electrical engineer. Digital video is one of my hobbies.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Clip Magnet I do get your strategy and it looks like you have some handy equipment.
I just find that once I dub my Countdowns to DVD, I get the desired ratio no matter which media device I use. I never have to go into the menu and adjust the aspect ratio.
Two questions:
With me altering the raw stream to 4:3, it it compromising the quality of the video?
As of interest, can a 4:3 video be converted back to 16:9?

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

No playlist posted for tonight's show... yet, anyway (and surely it would have been by now if they were going to).

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Frank FM
Two questions: With me altering the raw stream to 4:3, it it compromising the quality of the video? As of interest, can a 4:3 video be converted back to 16:9?

The simple answers are yes (a tiny bit) and yes.

It can be confusing that a 16:9 TV picture has the same number of pixels as 4:3, but they do. A 16:9 picture is just a 4:3 picture stretched out horizontally. In fact because MPEG-2 pixels aren't square, even a 4:3 PAL picture (720x576 pixels) is not 4:3, it's actually 5:4 if the pixels were square.

To represent a "4:3" picture on a screen or playback device which assumes the stream is "16:9", the 4:3 picture is squeezed (resampled) horizontally and black bars are added to both sides. Then when it is stretched out again to "16:9" the original 4:3 picture looks like it has the correct aspect ratio, i.e. is neither squeezed nor stretched.

That process is called "pillarboxing" and the resampling step means that the "4:3" image part of a 16:9 transmission is in fact only using 540 of the 720 horizontal pixels, whereas true 4:3 would use all 720 horizontal pixels. So a pillarboxed 4:3 stream has only 75% of the horizontal resolution of a native 4:3 stream. There is nothing anyone can do about that once it's encoded.

So the horizontal image resolution is reduced, but it's generally not noticeable to the human eye. The 4:3 content in rage is pillarboxed in real time by ABC's Media Hub.

To convert a pillarboxed 4:3 image back to true 4:3 you just reverse the process. That adds a tiny bit more loss due to another resampling/recoding step, but again most people would not notice it. Certainly not with old music videos that have effective resolution much lower than 720 x 576 to begin with.

I hope that is clear as mud!

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Countdown - September 4th, 1983 on ABC 1 right now. How cool
Repeat from rage goes retro 4

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

The Countdown was followed by a few clips then Rock Arena with Kids in the Kitchen live.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

The Vault is back on again this week (rage is airing every weekday morning on ABC this week). Here's the playlist:

PORTISHEAD Glory Box
PORTISHEAD Only You (Live)
DJ SHADOW Midnight In A Perfect World
DJ KRUSH Kemuri
UNKLE Rabbit In Your Headlights
UNKLE featuring IAN BROWN Be There
HANDSOME BOY MODELING SCHOOL Sunshine
MORCHEEBA Trigger Hippie
GOLDFRAPP Utopia
SNEAKER PIMPS Six Underground
MASSIVE ATTACK Protection
MASSIVE ATTACK Daydreaming
TRICKY Ponderosa
TRICKY featuring PJ HARVEY Broken Homes
GARBAGE Milk (Tricky Mix)
SNEAKER PIMPS Spin Spin Sugar
MADONNA & MASSIVE ATTACK I Want You
BJORK Bachelorette
ORBITAL Halcyon
APHEX TWIN On
AUTECHRE Bass Cadet
AMON TOBIN Slowly
BOARDS OF CANADA Dayvan Cowboy
ZERO 7 In The Waiting Line
ALEX GOPHER The Child
PNAU Journey Agent

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

This morning they had a 'songs with Sunday or Monday in the title'-themed playlist... Starting with 'Sunday' songs - e.g. U2's 'Sunday Bloody Sunday', Sonic Youth's 'Sunday', Morrissey's 'Everyday Is Like Sunday', Moby's 'Sunday', No Doubt 'Sunday Morning' etc. Then Vanessa Paradis' 'Sunday Mondays' before switching to 'Monday' songs - e.g. New Order 'Blue Monday', Bangles' 'Manic Monday', Carpenters' 'Rainy Days and Mondays', Max Q 'Monday Night By Satellite' etc.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Tonight's Vault show - Rock, rhythm & blues theme.

CHUCK BERRY Johnny B Goode
JERRY LEE LEWIS Whole Lotta Shakin'
RAY CHARLES AND THE BLUES BROTHERS Shake Your Tailfeather
ARETHA FRANKLIN Respect
OTIS REDDING Satisfaction
THE ROLLING STONES Walking The Dog
THE ROLLING STONES Respectable
BO DIDDLEY Let's Rock and Roll (Live in Sydney, 1975)
THE ANIMALS Baby Let Me Take You Home
ERIC BURDON and THE ANIMALS When I Was Young
THE WHO The Kids Are Alright
THE BYRDS Feel A Whole Lot Better
BOB DYLAN Maggie's Farm (Live)
STAPLE SINGERS Are You Sure Of Your Prayers
STAPLE SINGERS When Will We Be Paid?
JEFFERSON AIRPLANE White Rabbit
SANTANA Soul Sacrifice
JIMI HENDRIX Killing Floor
JIMI HENDRIX Voodoo Child
CREAM I'm So Glad
ERIC CLAPTON White Room
ERIC CLAPTON After Midnight
J.J CALE (Live on Rock Arena, 1982)
RY COODER Little Sister
RY COODER Get Rhythm
JOHN LEE HOOKER This Is Hip
JOHN LEE HOOKER and BONNIE RAITT In The Mood
BB KING Sweet Sixteen
STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN Cold Shot
STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN Pipeline
NEIL YOUNG Wonderin'
NEIL YOUNG Harvest Moon

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Jason 'The Moderator'
Just stunning!

Finally a PAL copy of Vanity's Under The Influence




Heard that Vanity passed away in the last few days, aged 57.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Guru Bob
Jason 'The Moderator'
Just stunning!

Finally a PAL copy of Vanity's Under The Influence




Heard that Vanity passed away in the last few days, aged 57.


From kidney problems she had because of a crack OD. Drugs destroy so many lives.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Tonight... rap meets rock theme.

ANTHRAX and PUBLIC ENEMY Bring Tha Noise
BODY COUNT Body Count's In The House
BIOHAZARD How It Is
BEASTIE BOYS featuring CYPRESS HILL So What'cha Want (Remix)
SONIC YOUTH Kool Thing
DE LA SOUL and TEENAGE FANCLUB Fallin'
R.E.M. Radio Song
PUBLIC ENEMY He Got Game
BLUES EXPLOSION featuring CHUCK D Hot Gossip
PUFF DADDY featuring JIMMY PAGE Come With Me
ICE CUBE featuring KORN F Dying
PUFF DADDY featuring CHUCK D PE 2000 (Rock Remix)
CYPRESS HILL Rock Superstar
BONE, THUGS 'N' HARMONY featuring HENRY ROLLINS War
STUCK MOJO Rising
KORN and ICE CUBE Children Of The Korn (Live)
LIMP BIZKIT Jump Around (Live)
LIMP BIZKIT featuring METHOD MAN N2Gether
X-ECUTIONERS It's Goin' Down
LINKIN PARK and JAY-Z Numb/Encore

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Tonight's Vault show has a car theme:

SMASHING PUMPKINS Today
GUIDED BY VOICES Motor Away/Auditorium
SONIC YOUTH Disappearer
ROLLINS BAND Disconnect
LENNY KRAVITZ Mr Cab Driver
GEGGY TAH Whoever You Are
ALAN BRAXE and FRED FALKE Rubicon
VANESSA PARADIS Joe Le Taxi
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN I'm On Fire
THE GO-GOS Our Lips Are Sealed
ARETHA FRANKLIN Freeway Of Love
A TRIBE CALLED QUEST I Left My Wallet In El Segundo
LL COOL J Going Back To Cali
ICE CUBE It Was A Good Day
DR DRE featuring SNOOP DOGG Still D.R.E.
APHEX TWIN Windowlicker
MADONNA What It Feels Like For A Girl
DEPECHE MODE Wrong
RADIOHEAD Karma Police
THE CARDIGANS My Favourite Game
MODJO Lady (Hear Me Tonight)
JAMIROQUAI Cosmic Girl
PURETONE Addicted To Bass (Apollo 440 remix)

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

While these "themes" are kinda interesting, it would be good if they did Artist specials from the 80s and 90s, you know, just because they can. There is so much stuff from that era that is not available commercially.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Clip Magnet
While these "themes" are kinda interesting, it would be good if they did Artist specials from the 80s and 90s, you know, just because they can. There is so much stuff from that era that is not available commercially.


There have been a few good themed Vault shows airing on Monday night, but on the whole it seems they're still afraid to include anything pop or dance, which is disappointing. I wish rage didn't feel the need to be 'alternative' or Triple J-esque all the time.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Tonight... an 80's theme:

THE CURE In Between Days
COCTEAU TWINS Pearly Dew Drops' Drops
THIS MORTAL COIL Song To The Siren
PREFAB SPROUT When Love Breaks Down
THE BLUE NILE Tinseltown In The Rain
IT'S IMMATERIAL Driving Away From Home (Jim's Tune)
SQUEEZE Last Time Forever
WORLD PARTY All Come True
TALK TALK Life's What You Make It
PSYCHEDELIC FURS Love My Way
THE STYLE COUNCIL The Lodgers
SCRITTI POLITTI The Word Girl
THE HOUSEMARTINS Think For A Minute
ORANGE JUICE Rip It Up
AZTEC CAMERA Oblivious
ALTERED IMAGES I Could Be Happy
HAIRCUT 100 Love Plus One
THE ASSOCIATES Those First Impressions
ORCHESTRAL MANEUVERS IN THE DARK Souvenir
THE DREAM ACADEMY Life In A Northern Town
BIG COUNTRY In A Big Country

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

ohnoitisnathan
There have been a few good themed Vault shows airing on Monday night, but on the whole it seems they're still afraid to include anything pop or dance, which is disappointing. I wish rage didn't feel the need to be 'alternative' or Triple J-esque all the time.

Yeah don't get me wrong, there have been some real gems played, and we should be extremely grateful that rage are having a 'vault' night every week, not just occasionally. It means 150 to 200 hours of vault clips every year instead of maybe 6 hours with a single vault special once per year.

But sometimes the playlists seem like a missed opportunity - playing stuff that quite frankly has been played quite a bit or is not rare. While there are some rare clips on last night's playlist (and thanks rage for that!) there is also stuff like "Song To The Siren" which has been played lots of times. What about playing TMC's "Acid Bitter And Sad" instead which hasn't had an airing for more than 10 years? Or "Late Night"? And there's plenty of other examples.

Maybe I'm being too picky.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Clip Magnet

But sometimes the playlists seem like a missed opportunity - playing stuff that quite frankly has been played quite a bit or is not rare. While there are some rare clips on last night's playlist (and thanks rage for that!) there is also stuff like "Song To The Siren" which has been played lots of times. What about playing TMC's "Acid Bitter And Sad" instead which hasn't had an airing for more than 10 years? Or "Late Night"? And there's plenty of other examples.

Maybe I'm being too picky.


Exactly, and I totally agree with the 'missed opportunity' comment.

There were about 5 clips I didn't have & kept from this morning's show, but why re-hash stuff they semi-regularly play anyway, like 'Song To the Siren' (as you said) and 'In Between Days'?

An '80's' theme is so broad... they could have filled the whole playlist with stuff they haven't aired ever/in many, many years.

That It's Immaterial video just aired in January!

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

A bunch of common clips tonight The theme being videos filmed in New York.

KING MISSILE Detachable Penis
DINOSAUR JNR Feel The Pain
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Sleep Now In The Fire
ROLLING STONES, THE Waiting On A Friend
CLASH, THE Radio Clash
LOU REED NYC Man
SONIC YOUTH Sugar Kane
WHITE STRIPES, THE The Hardest Button To Button
BANANARAMA Cruel Summer
MADONNA Papa Don't Preach
CYNDI LAUPER Girls Just Want To Have Fun
SAVAGE GARDEN I Knew I Loved You
MACY GRAY I Try
ALANIS MORISSETTE You Learn
M.I.A. Paper Planes
NAS Nas Is Like
BEASTIE BOYS An Open Letter To NYC
DAFT PUNK Da Funk
GRANDMASTER FLASH and THE FURIOUS FIVE The Message
JAY-Z Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem)
LIL' KIM Lighters Up
A TRIBE CALLED QUEST Electric Relaxation
COMPANY FLOW End To End Burners

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

Tonight's program is a mini-Madonna special:

Vogue
Burning Up
Everybody
Papa Don't Preach
Human Nature
Bedtime Story
Secret
Fever
Borderline
Lucky Star
Like A Prayer
Take A Bow
Justify My Love
Frozen
What It Feels Like For A Girl
Erotica
True Blue
The Gambler
Hung Up
Deeper And Deeper
Dress You Up
Holiday
Open Your Heart
La Isla Bonita
Nothing Really Matters
Drowned World (Substitute For Love)
Ray Of Light
Don't Cry For Me Argentina
Rain
Oh Father
Like A Virgin
Hanky Panky
Into The Groove
Material Girl


Below was the original playlist they posted yesterday, but they updated it to include Gambler after I asked for it


Vogue
Burning Up
Everybody
Papa Don't Preach
Human Nature
Bedtime Story
Secret
Fever
Borderline
Lucky Star
Like A Prayer
Take A Bow
Justify My Love
Frozen
What It Feels Like For A Girl
Erotica
Hung Up
Dress You Up
Holiday
Open Your Heart
La Isla Bonita
Hollywood
Nothing Really Matters
Drowned World (Substitute For Love)
Ray Of Light
Don't Cry For Me Argentina
Rain
Oh Father
Like A Virgin
Into The Groove
Material Girl

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and True Blue & Hanky Panky.

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

More alternative crap tonight:

BUTTHOLE SURFERS Who Was In My Room Last Night?
BUTTHOLE SURFERS Hurdy Gurdy Man
MELVINS, THE Honeybucket
MELVINS, THE Lizzy
JESUS LIZARD, THE Puss
MINUTEMEN This Ain't No Picnic
MEAT PUPPETS New Gods
MEAT PUPPETS We Don't Exist
BIG BLACK Fish Fry
BIG BLACK Jordan Minnesota
PRIMUS Mr Krinkle
PRIMUS Wynona's Big Brown Beaver
SAUSAGE Riddles Are Around Tonight
MORPHINE Honey White
X Devil Doll
IGGY POP Wild America
IGGY POP Real Wild Child
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART Ice Cream For Crow
WESLEY WILLIS Alanis Morissette
KING MISSILE Martin Scorsese
KING MISSILE Detachable Penis
WEEN Can't Put My Finger On It
WEEN Voodoo Lady
CHER with BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD I Got You Babe
FLAMING LIPS, THE Bad Days
FLAMING LIPS, THE Race For The Prize
VIOLENT FEMMES, THE Gone Daddy Gone
THROWING MUSES Fish
ROYAL TRUX Liar
DINOSAUR JNR I Don't Think So
DINOSAUR JNR Start Choppin'
PAVEMENT Shady Lane
PAVEMENT Stereo
SEBADOH Willing To Wait
SEBADOH Skull
SUPERCHUNK The First Part
SUPERCHUNK Fishing
BREEDERS, THE Saints
FRANK BLACK Men In Black
PIXIES, THE Alec Eiffel
PIXIES, THE Here Comes Your Man
DEAD MILKMEN The Thing That Only Eats Hippies
HUSKER DU Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely
HUSKER DU Could You Be The One
JAWBOX Cornflake Girl
SUGAR If I Can't Change Your Mind
MIKE WATT Pi$$ (that word is censored here ) Bottle Man

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

ohnoitisnathan
More alternative crap tonight

Well, the Pixies and Husker Du had their moments...

I sent rage a request list last week - videos they have either never shown or haven't shown for 15+ years. Seeing they have over 100 hours of retro programming to fill this year, it will be interesting to see how many of my requests get played.

I also asked them to indicate which videos they do not have on my list, so that I will stop requesting them. I suspect they don't have around half of them, but we'll see. Any kind of reply would be nice.

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^ Oh, I do like some alternative music, definitely. Just I get annoyed when rage favour it over other genres when they have a chance to air something different.

Rage aired a couple of videos ripped from youtube on Saturday night's show just gone. Although it's nice to see something different/rare, I wish they wouldn't do this, as the quality looks so bad on TV (especially when they had to blur out a logo and left a 'thanks for watching' message put on the video by the uploader at the end).

Rage re-aired a slab of the 2014 Vault Special on ABC last night, interestingly. Their Monday morning programming seems to usually have a vault repeat (a few weeks ago they re-aired the Jon English etc. tributes), but is hard to predict what they'll air.


Tonight's Vault show has a 'The Wedding Singer' movie theme:

PRESIDENTS OF THE USA, THE Video Killed The Radio Star
BILLY IDOL White Wedding
SMITHS, THE How Soon Is Now
ADAM SANDLER Somebody Kill Me
THOMPSON TWINS Hold Me Now
ELVIS COSTELLO Everyday I Write The Book
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN Hungry Heart
DAVID BOWIE China Girl
SUGAR HILL GANG Rappers Delight
FLYING LIZARDS, THE Money (That's What I Want)
MUSICAL YOUTH Pass The Dutchie
DEPECHE MODE Just Can't Get Enough
CULTURE CLUB Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?
CURE, THE Boys Don't Cry
A FLOCK OF SEAGULLS Space Age Love Song
FALCO Der Kommissar
NENA 99 Luftballoons
MADONNA Holiday
SPANDAU BALLET TRUE
NEW ORDER Blue Monday
JAN HAMMER Miami Vice Theme
LIONEL RICHIE All Night Long
WHAM Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go
DEAD OR ALIVE You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)
FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD Relax
MICHAEL JACKSON Thriller

Re: Every Monday night (Tuesday morning) on ABC1 now a Vault special

ohnoitisnathan
Rage aired a couple of videos ripped from youtube on Saturday night's show just gone. Although it's nice to see something different/rare, I wish they wouldn't do this, as the quality looks so bad on TV (especially when they had to blur out a logo and left a 'thanks for watching' message put on the video by the uploader at the end).

Rage aired a YouTube rip? That's incredible, I would have thought that without the broadcasting rights from the copyright owner, they would not be able to do that. So if a clip is not already in their library, they would have to seek the rights first. I didn't record any of last Saturday's show so I didn't see it.

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Clip Magnet
ohnoitisnathan
Rage aired a couple of videos ripped from youtube on Saturday night's show just gone. Although it's nice to see something different/rare, I wish they wouldn't do this, as the quality looks so bad on TV (especially when they had to blur out a logo and left a 'thanks for watching' message put on the video by the uploader at the end).

Rage aired a YouTube rip? That's incredible, I would have thought that without the broadcasting rights from the copyright owner, they would not be able to do that. So if a clip is not already in their library, they would have to seek the rights first. I didn't record any of last Saturday's show so I didn't see it.


They aired about 5 clips from youtube... it was bad! They were all pretty obscure clips, so I didn't mind seeing them, but the quality was shocking.

They aired this video, for example, complete with blurred out logo top left, and 'thanks for watching :)' at the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6tnj7IEI0E

I think they might have re-dubbed the audio with CD audio though. It sounded alright.

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