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Countdown segment + a handful of not-previously-aired-on-rage retro clips this weekend

Saturday night:


NENA 99 Luftballoons (Epic) - I don't remember them playing this as a standalone clip before (though I've got an official DVD copy)

MOLLY MELDRUM ON COUNTDOWN 20 MAY 1984 Michael Jackson and U.S. Drink Driving Campaign (ABC)

BANANARAMA Shy Boy (London) - they definitely haven't played this as a standalone clip before.

FRIDA I Know There's Something Going On (Epic) - this aired in 2012 (but with watermark. I think it was on a few years before then, but I missed it)

FISCHER Z So Long (EMI) - I know a few people have asked for this one over the years on the rage forum.

Re: Countdown segment + a handful of not-previously-aired-on-rage retro clips this weekend

Ooooh Nathan I was going to maybe check the Play list but thought ti would be mainly common as dirt crap. The Michael Jackson COUNTDOWN segment, wth is that? How exciting...

I have seen Frida's 'I Know There's.... on rage before but NEVER Shy Boy! Never seen Fischer Z with So Long on rage either, not sure about Nena

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Can't rage just play the WHOLE episode of Countdown from Year: 1984 after Spiderbait seeing Spiderbait are choosing something from the episode, daaaarn

Date:20/5/1984
Show no:417
Summary: THIS WEEKS SHOW HOSTED BY MARC HUNTER FROM DRAGON.MOLLY (WITH HAT) PRESENTS HUMDRUM WHICH INCLUDES U.S TOP 5,US TOP 5. MOLLY SHOWS AN EXCERPT FROM THE BAND ELECTRIC PANDAS,TALKS ABOUT PROBLEMS INXS HAVE WITH THEIR NEW SONG 'ORIGINAL SIN' BECAUSE OF RACIAL CONNOTATIONS. MOLLY TALKS ABOUT HIS INVOLVMENT WITH DRINK/DRVING CAMPAIGN AND SHOWS AN NBC REPORT OF MICHAEL JACKSON RECEIVING RECOGNITION FROM REAGAN AT THE WHITE HOUSE FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION TO DRINK DRIVING CAMPAIGN IN THE U.S.

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Jason 'The Moderator'
Ooooh Nathan I was going to maybe check the Play list but thought ti would be mainly common as dirt crap. The Michael Jackson COUNTDOWN segment, wth is that? How exciting...

I have seen Frida's 'I Know There's.... on rage before but NEVER Shy Boy! Never seen Fischer Z with So Long on rage either, not sure about Nena


I thought I'd post this here because I knew a few of you probably wouldn't bother checking the playlist, especially with Spiderbait programming (again).

I google searched to see if they'd played Nena before as a standalone clip - it seems they haven't (at least since 1998 when the playlists were made available on the website).

They haven't played the Fischer-Z clip before either.

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Cheers Nathan, I must admit i was gonna give the rage playlists the flick this weekend.

Re: Countdown segment + a handful of not-previously-aired-on-rage retro clips this weekend

ohnoitisnathan
Saturday night:



FISCHER Z So Long (EMI) - I know a few people have asked for this one over the years on the rage forum.


Yeah Nathan, I'm one of them!

Have asked many times but they never played it - vaguely remember the Mod saying they didn't have it in their library anymore.
(Seems to have miraculously reappeared though now a Guest Programmer requests it.)

Anyway, will be great to see it again after all this time

Actually a really good playlist by Spiderbait overall.

The Primitive's Crash is another good one though it has been played before on Rage.

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Michael
Cheers Nathan, I must admit i was gonna give the rage playlists the flick this weekend.




I check them every week (well, the Saturday morning & Saturday nights ones), no matter how crap the guest programmer/special is, because there's always the chance there may be 1 or 2 buried treasures amongst the muck.

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Christina
ohnoitisnathan
Saturday night:
FISCHER Z So Long (EMI) - I know a few people have asked for this one over the years on the rage forum.


Yeah Nathan, I'm one of them!

Have asked many times but they never played it - vaguely remember the Mod saying they didn't have it in their library anymore.
(Seems to have miraculously reappeared though now a Guest Programmer requests it.)

Anyway, will be great to see it again after all this time

Actually a really good playlist by Spiderbait overall.

The Primitive's Crash is another good one though it has been played before on Rage.


I too have requested clips in the past that they've said they don't have (well, when the mod used to answer questions on the forum/in the old guestbook), but they re-acquire years later. I think it's down to their archives generally being poorly (if at all) catalogued... so they really don't know where stuff is until someone going through the archives happens to stumble upon it (either that or they source new masters from the record company).

I have the Fischer-Z clip on some 80's DVD, but it has the artist/title in a blue rectangle for a few seconds during in intro which I find more intrusive than the rage superscripts, so I'll be pleased to catch this one.

I'm not sure whether you're a Fischer-Z fan or just a fan of this song, but (obligatory plug) I uploaded a rare video of theirs, 'Big Drum' from 1988 a few weeks ago on one of my youtube channels (ohnoitisnathan37) if you're interested in seeing that, too.

The 'Say No' video is excellent as well, and is on youtube. Well worth a look for the Maggie Thatcher look-a-like being prodded into a tank of water. Apparently it was banned in the UK. I have a promo VHS copy of it, but it's barely viewable with many picture black-outs

Re: Countdown segment + a handful of not-previously-aired-on-rage retro clips this weekend

I do check the playlists religiously every Friday arvo to find rare treats between 8-11am Saturday morning and any treats on Saturday night. I just thought that I'd give it a miss this weekend, because there was no way it could have any great offerings from the what we were treated with last month and of course rage would be bending over backwards to get back to their usual playlists to welcome back all their Gen i's/z's/y's who they probably feel they have alienated in January!

I don't mind Fischer Z, I have 'So Long' recorded off 'Max' on Foxtel. They have played it a few times over the years and 'Perfect Day' is one of my faves from '88. I'll check out the other vids you mentioned on YouTube. Cheers.

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ohnoitisnathan
I too have requested clips in the past that they've said they don't have (well, when the mod used to answer questions on the forum/in the old guestbook), but they re-acquire years later. I think it's down to their archives generally being poorly (if at all) catalogued... so they really don't know where stuff is until someone going through the archives happens to stumble upon it (either that or they source new masters from the record company).

I have the Fischer-Z clip on some 80's DVD, but it has the artist/title in a blue rectangle for a few seconds during in intro which I find more intrusive than the rage superscripts, so I'll be pleased to catch this one.

I'm not sure whether you're a Fischer-Z fan or just a fan of this song, but (obligatory plug) I uploaded a rare video of theirs, 'Big Drum' from 1988 a few weeks ago on one of my youtube channels (ohnoitisnathan37) if you're interested in seeing that, too.

The 'Say No' video is excellent as well, and is on youtube. Well worth a look for the Maggie Thatcher look-a-like being prodded into a tank of water. Apparently it was banned in the UK. I have a promo VHS copy of it, but it's barely viewable with many picture black-outs [:-|


Yeah, you're probably right about a lot of the "missing/lost" clips in the Rage archives. No doubt so much stuff just not properly labelled/catalogued and they just don't have the staff to get around to doing it most of the time.
So a bit of a lucky dip when they actually do get around to delving through a lot of this forgotten material.

Had a look at those Fischer-Z clips, Nathan.
Really enjoyed them - can see why they banned the Maggie Thatcher one !
She would not have been amused!
Yes, I am a big Fischer-Z fan. I especially like their earlier songs and albums.(But So Long is still my favourite one of theirs).

Word Salad,Red Skies Over Paradise and Going Deaf For a Living are really good, as are all the tracks off them such as Pretty Paracetamol, Marliese,Lies,Wax Dolls, Room Service, Cruise Missiles,Red Skies Over Paradise, The Writer, Bathroom Scenario etc, etc.

Such an underrated band at the time and John Watts is such a brilliant songwriter.
He's still kicking around these days, touring around the place.
Sadly, has lost all his hair though.

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I didn't really "discover" Fischer-Z until the early 90's when I was buying large numbers of LP's at trash markets. I had loved So Long and Perfect Day but didn't really know anything else from them.

After picking up a batch which included the albums Word Salad (1979), Going Deaf For A Living (1980) and Red Skies over Paradise (1981) I became a fan. They are 3 brilliant LPs. I couldn't believe there was such a good band out there and they had only gotten minimal coverage that I had missed most of their material. It was a bit like REM after they released Orange Crush in 1988. I had never noticed them before and suddenly became a big fan of REM material 1983-87.

Here are my Fischer-Z albums, or at least as much as an A4 scanner will allow.
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I noticed So Long still had the old rage logo on before the song title so it couldn't have been lost or new to the library or it would have had the new one

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JASE
I noticed So Long still had the old rage logo on before the song title so it couldn't have been lost or new to the library or it would have had the new one


I unfortunately had a brief power black out just before the clip started, so I missed that (just as well it's repeated again tonight).

The earliest I noticed the new logo/font size/less sharpness was during the Mardi Gras episode in 2012, so presumably it was encoded in the rage library before then. Slightly rude of them not to give it an airing until now, given that a lot of people have asked for it, but at least it's finally being played.

One of the things I find fascinating about Fischer-Z is that they were one-hit wonders... twice, 8 years apart, in Oz . The only other band/artist I can think of who had a similar fate was Underworld.

Shockingly, neither 'So Long' (#72) nor 'Perfect Day' (#91) were hits in their homeland, the UK, and their only other charting single (The Worker), didn't crack the top 50 there (#53) but was their biggest 'hit'.

I remember reading that John Watts (the singer and only consistent band member between 'So Long' and 'Perfect Day') wrote numerous songs based on the stories of patients he dealt with as a psychiatric nurse (or at least working in an institute, I don't remember exactly).

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ohnoitisnathan

Shockingly, neither 'So Long' (#72) nor 'Perfect Day' (#91) were hits in their homeland, the UK, and their only other charting single (The Worker), didn't crack the top 50 there (#53) but was their biggest 'hit'.


They had more success in Europe and for a long time were based in Germany and Holland where they had a more appreciative audience, or at least enough to make a living from it.

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I remember seeing the clip for 'Perfect Day' for the first time on The Factory. Always assumed it was previously a big hit in the UK, which is why the show gave it a look in. When I first came across 'So Long' on '1980...The Summer', I had to question if it was the same band/singer, cause 8 years is a long time between drinks.

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I have all those albums as well, Guru.
After hearing So Long on the radio I was so impressed that I went out and bought all the Fischer-Z albums at the time of their release, as well as picking up their first album with the wonderful Pretty Paracetamol on it.
They are still amongst my favourite albums even now.

Yes, like you, can't believe this band weren't far more popular in the UK.
Perhaps a bit too confronting and edgy for the mainstream and they did highlight some pretty dark and depressing subjects,(the threat of nuclear war, suicide, etc),in their songs.
Also, John Watt's high piercing voice in the early days was definitely an acquired taste.

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JASE
I noticed So Long still had the old rage logo on before the song title so it couldn't have been lost or new to the library or it would have had the new one


ohnoitisnathan
Slightly rude of them not to give it an airing until now, given that a lot of people have asked for it, but at least it's finally being played.



Hmmm...so they did have it all this time and just couldn't be bothered to play it !
Bet we see it half a dozen times in the next 6 months now they've finally dragged it out.

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Yeah Nathan, I read that John formerly worked as a nurse in a psychiatric ward in the early days and that's where he got a lot of the material for his songs.
Also probably why his writing is somewhat dark and depressing.

As you say, Guru, Fischer-Z were always more popular in Germany and Holland for some reason, as is John Watts today.
He comes across as a very smart but cynical man.

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They may have had more of a (live?) following in Germany, but they didn't do any better on the charts there. Just looked it up and their only charting album listed is 'Stream' from 1995, peaking at just #80. No singles chart entries are listed.

They had some chart success in the Netherlands though (title/date of chart entry/peak/weeks):

Titel Binnenkomst Piek Weken
The Worker 15/09/1979 26 7
So Long 31/05/1980 12 9
Room Service / Limbo 04/10/1980 41 1
Marliese 28/03/1981 5 9
One Voice (John Watts) 27/03/1982 41 3

Albums

Titel Binnenkomst Piek Weken
Word Salad 15/09/1979 21 7
Going Deaf For A Living 17/05/1980 6 18
Red Skies Over Paradise 04/04/1981 2 17
One More Twist (John Watts) 20/03/1982 11 10
The Iceberg Model (John Watts) 26/02/1983 17 7



And Belgium:

Singles - Ultratop
Titel Binnenkomst Piek Weken
The Worker 06/10/1979 23 2
So Long 14/06/1980 14 8
Marliese 02/05/1981 21 4


From what I can see, 'Perfect Day' wasn't a hit anywhere but Australia.


Christina

He comes across as a very smart but cynical man.


Reminds me of a great (or at least I thought) quote: "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cyncism by those who do not possess it."

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I was the same too, always loved "So Long". First heard it when I bought 1980 The Summer (Guru Bob's current id pic!). I didn't buy it until 1983 & got it from the bargain bin at the local record store for 99 cents! (Luckily, it was only 99 cents, because trying to convince my mum to spend $9.99 on LP's then was never easy!).

Anyway... Always found this a sad song, particularly love the full length version also that is on the album (which i have on CD now).

Perfect Day was a song I loved too, and same, I also had to investigate if it was the same band, as 7 years, (back in the day), seemed like an eternity between hits.

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Did anyone else notice Billy Joel's 'Pressure' (audio) playing during the last few seconds of the Bananarama 'Shy Boy' video airing on Rage? You can hear it if you turn the volume up (not even that much). How bizarre, and surely a tape source error.

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ohnoitisnathan
They may have had more of a (live?) following in Germany, but they didn't do any better on the charts there. Just looked it up and their only charting album listed is 'Stream' from 1995, peaking at just #80


Interesting - they deserved to do much better than they ever did.



Matt
I was the same too, always loved "So Long".
Anyway... Always found this a sad song, particularly love the full length version also that is on the album (which i have on CD now).

Perfect Day was a song I loved too, and same, I also had to investigate if it was the same band, as 7 years, (back in the day), seemed like an eternity between hits.


Yes, So Long is such a haunting song. Quite bitter as well - an ode to stalking if ever I heard one.

Yep, a lo-o-o-ng time between drinks.
As soon as I heard Perfect Day I recognised who it was because of the singer's distinctive voice.
Really love this song as well - was so pleased to see them back again after all that time, (albeit briefly).

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ohnoitisnathan
Did anyone else notice Billy Joel's 'Pressure' (audio) playing during the last few seconds of the Bananarama 'Shy Boy' video airing on Rage? You can hear it if you turn the volume up (not even that much). How bizarre, and surely a tape source error.


Sorry Nathan, didn't get to record the handful of treats on Saturday night, but how funny is that. BTW - was the small snippet from 20/5/84 Countdown any good?

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ohnoitisnathan
Did anyone else notice Billy Joel's 'Pressure' (audio) playing during the last few seconds of the Bananarama 'Shy Boy' video airing on Rage? You can hear it if you turn the volume up (not even that much). How bizarre, and surely a tape source error.


That sounds like when Shy Boy was being transferred the Billy Joel audio was playing on another source and the cabling used to connect everything together wasn't properly earthed/isolated. The reason you can hear it in the fade is that broadcast audio is put through a series of compressors and limiters - its job is to reduce overloud sounds, and raise the quieter ones, which creates an audio level to air that is solid and doesn't vary. During a song's fade, it gets quieter which kicks the compressor into raising that level bit by bit, revealing any imperfections or things like tape noise present in the source, that when playing at normal level is hidden as the compressor makes room to accomodate that level and quieter sound is squeezed out during that time. It's only when audio hits that compressor that's lower than it's set for that it raises it gradually.

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^ Thanks for that insight, Frankster.