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Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

OK Durantonians. The Continental 14L & 15L engine used in 1928/1928 Durant cars had a first attempt device to filter the oil, called an oil filtrator. It was a large thing on the side of the block that originally contained felt washer rings to filter the oil. I've restored mine, using a modern filter replacement, but I need to know what the manufacturers decal looked like that was on the side of the filtrator. I believe it was a triangle shape, but can't find a picture of it. Does anyone have a copy of a sales brochure or a photograph of what the manufacturers decal looked like that I could get so I can have some decals made up. If your engine has one, snap a picture for me and send it to me. Thanks.

Mike

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Good Morning Mike:
I have also started thinking about the decal and would need one as well. Mine was nonexistent when I got the car so if you are able to have some made, I would surely be interested.

Where Are You From? Hyattsville Md

Do You own a car built by Durant? Yes

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Mike: I recently inquired about the decal, but was unsuccessful. I am pretty sure I saw a reproduction of an advertisement that featured the Filtrator in an old back issue from either the Gillis club, or before. I donated that entire collection to the archives several years ago, and no longer have it to search through. I would also like to pursue finding and reproducing the correct graphic. Count me "in".

Where Are You From? Pomona, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1929 Model 60

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Tony and Steve thanks so much. I have a complete collection of the clubs magazines here for the museum effort and will start looking through those to see if I can find it. If I do I'll scan it and post it and try to find a decal company to make some up. I'm sure there is still some out there. Everyone has gone to vinyl stickers now. Below is a picture of the Filtrator for those who do not know what I'm talking about.

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Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Haven't found a decal, but here is what looks like the patent for the Hall-Winslow oil filtrator Filtrator Patent. The Hall-Winslow oil filtrator is listed in a 1928 Motor Age article found here: Durant Markets Three Lines of Sixes

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Durant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

mike, I've never knew there was a decal, but I'd love to have a reproduction copy or two.

Tom Thanks for the patent info, best diagram I've seen!



Rick

Where Are You From? Fremont, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1929 Roadster

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

If we can get this figured out and I can find someone to make them, don't worry I'll have a number of them made for us.

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

... and of course there is this picture on our website of a 15L engine where you can see the decal on the filtrator (only the scan isn't good enough to read). 15L Engine Knew I had see a glimpse of it somewhere

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Durant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Finally got out to the shop where I have my cars. I have 3 engines that should have filtrators. One doesn't have one, the other two do, but only one has what might be called the reminants of a decal. I have circled what little remains of the decal. I can't read anything from it.

Filtrator Decal

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Durant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Tom & everyone, thanks so much for your time in helping me research this. Devel is in the details they say, so I'm going to sit down this afternoon and start going through all the clubs old issues to try and find the ad that shows the decal. I seem to remember seeing one when I was looking through them some time ago. Tom thanks this really helps in the research. Seems the company is still making fitrating systems mostly for diesel and marine applications. Very interesting. I'll keep everyone posted.

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

One more thing I found, a Trade-Mark registration from March 1927.

Trade Mark HWFiltrator

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Durant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

OK, still no decal, but apparently our friends in Australia thought the filtrator was a big deal. Maybe someone from there can find a decal. Both of these newspaper ads/articles are from Australia

How to clean a Filtrator

Durant Model 65 Add with Filtrator Picture

I think I'm done for now

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Durant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Whole write up here and 3 pics no decals

http://www.google.com/patents/US1780663

Publication number US1780663 A
Publication type Grant
Publication date Nov 4, 1930
Filing date May 5, 1925
Priority date May 5, 1925

Inventors Elbert J Hall, Charles A Winslow
Original Assignee Elbert J Hall, Charles A Winslow
Export Citation BiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan

And again with two pics no decals but long write up

https://www.google.com/patents/US1901484

Publication number US1901484 A
Publication type Grant
Publication date Mar 14, 1933
Filing date Jan 27, 1926
Priority date Jan 27, 1926

Inventors Elbert J Hall, Charles A Winslow
Original Assignee Elbert J Hall, Charles A Winslow
Export Citation BiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan

Not just used on Durant's but other engines as well.

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? Dominion built 1932 614 Sedan

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Might be interested in the aftermarkets info on the Filtrator and models used on. The US one also indicates the Rugby T. So its engines 14L, 15L 15U Star, Durant, Rugby 6 cyls. to and inc 1929. The 63 and 66 also could have oil filter cartridge stated Handy type in US aftermarkets and silent in Can ones about Handy.

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Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? Dominion built 1932 614 Sedan

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Hi Tom
The one link you sent me where you circled the remains of the decal on the Filtrator was a dead end. When I clicked it it would not let me see it. Can you try again or send me a link to it directly. Thanks.

Mike

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

No that one will not open I got something about opening a Google account.

I've tried enlarging the engine pic with the oval decal on the canister but it just gets blurrier, you can't read it. Think its Filtrator in lrage print across the middle but top / bottom words ??

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? Dominion built 1932 614 Sedan

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Not much of a picture, but all I have. Even when I magnified it, I couldn't make anything out.

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Druant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Here is the only image of the oil Filtrator label I could find.

Rick




Where Are You From? Fremont, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1929 Durant Model 60 Roadster

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Finally realized that when I got my 29's from Dave Schulte he gave me a manual to go with them. The manual has the picture of the engine with the filtrator showing. The pictue below is the best possible scan, but due to the fact that halftone printing was used originally there is only so much that can be teased out of the image. I think it is fairly clear that across the middle was HWFILTRATOR (see Trade Mark HWFiltrator link in one of my previous posts above). The picture below is blown up a bit too much, but if you click on the link below the picture and bring up the picture you can scale it up and down that helps some. Other than that, who knows



Filtrator Blowup

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Druant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

He Tom;
See if you can post it again or something, it did not come through. If I can get a decent picture, I'll have something to work with to try and copy it.

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Tom,
I took the liberty to download and set the color back to black and white.

Riok


Where Are You From? Fremont, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1929 Model 60 Roadster & 1931 Model 619 Sedan

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

I was looking through the Museum and noticed that there is a ten year index of the Durant Family Partner. In it there is a listing for "oil filtrator" Volume X, Issue 2, Page 9. That issue isn't online so I can't look at it. Is there anyone that has a copy of that issue who can see if there is anything in that article that might help with the decal?

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Durant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Hi Tom, thanks for the posting. I manage the "virtual museum" and will someday have all the past copies posted there. It takes scanning each individual copy, converting it to the flip page program so it can be viewed and then creating the listing on the "virtual museum" site and uploading the magazine to the site. Takes some time and I've been busy with other things, but the good news is that I have a full set of the old club magazines here that were shipped to me by Bob Smith and will look though to find that issue and check it out. If it has more information I will post it. I think that I could probably figure out what was said on there, but the colors would be what I would like to get right. Maybe black and silver or some red in there. The units were supposedly painted black, so a contrasting decal probably would have been used. I'll keep looking.

Mike

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Mike:

I checked out the Durant Standard - Volume 10 issue 2 page 9. The page shows a beautiful cut away picture of the HWOILFILTRATOR - H - W stands for Hall-Winslow . No picture of the decal.
We think that we have seen a B & W copy of the decal, but can't remember where. If we can find it we will post a copy.

Gord & Will

Where Are You From? Guelph, Ontario, Canada

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1932 Frontenac built by Dominion Motors Ltd., Leaside, Ontario

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Steve might get an idea from a canister that still has part on it. He's gone after the car info for the Registry and also a pic of the decal. From checking the owners addy the car seems to be in Sweden. Green Two Door 6 cyl Durant, no landau arms so not a 60. I think the vin plate as an L on it.

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? Dominion built 1932 614 Sedan

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Sorry guys this is what is left of the decal on this D 60 two door from Lansing between Jan to July 1929.


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Where Are You From? Ottawa Ont

Do You own a car built by Durant? Dominion built 1932 614 Sedan

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Hey Norm, this helps tremendously, looks like the decal was black, dark grayesh blue maybe with orange letters. Something to start with and I'll start working on it when I get the time. Thanks Again!

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

I have been trying for sometime to figure out how to get Filtrator out of Norm's picture. I was searching around the other day and came across an ad in the September 22, 1929 issue of Automotive Industries found here:

Automotive Industries 9/22/1928

(or search in google for "automotive industries september 22, 1928 brilliant advance")

What you will find there is that they apparently dropped the Filtrator name for 1929 and instead used H-W-FILTER with oil superimposed over the word filter (if you look closely at the black blob over FILTER you can see the word OIL). This lines up nicely with Norm's picture.

There is another ad in the same magazine for July 21, 1928 that uses the H-W-FILTRATOR both of these ads indicate that Rich Tool Company of Detroit Michigan is who sold the filters.

Maybe we are a bit closer to the decal

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, Colorado

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1926 Star Coupe, 1929 Durant 663, 1929 Durant 666

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

If we could get the measurements of the oval, and the height of the remaining letters, we could start to mock-up the graphics for a replacement. The miracle of modern computers and graphics programs!

Where Are You From? Yucaipa, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1929 D60 R/S Coupe

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Hi All: This was a great discussion of the oil filter for the 14L...but can anyone help me find a oil filter for the 22A and/or 40A Continental. Years ago I had 2 extra (got them from NAPA) that I sold off. Anyone got a idea?
Gary

Where Are You From? Washington State

Do You own a car built by Durant? Yes

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Hi Gary,
Someone is selling new repro filters for Mopar car on eBay.
They are pricy at $80 each.

eBay also has NOS filters, the average price was $50 and up.


Rick


Where Are You From? Fremont, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 2 of them

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

I mentioned on forum a long time ago that Randy said he had canister filters. Since no one seemed interested I emailed Todd about them for the Plymouth lads.
http://www.ply33.com/Models/PB/ Todd Fitch webmaster@ply33.com
You'll find the various filters on his site under
http://www.ply33.com/Parts/group10


Have no idea if Randy still has lots of them.

Minaker's Auto Parts(Milford) Ltd
Est.1925
3073 Cty Rd 10, Box 100
Milford, Ontario K0K 2P0
E Mail : minakersautoparts@hotmail.com
or parts@minakersautoparts.ca
or randy@minakersautoparts.ca
Specializing in hard to get parts.
Ph: (613)476-4547

Where Are You From? Ottawa Ontario

Do You own a car built by Durant? Dominion built 1932 614 sedan

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

BTW, Since there are a lot of Continental motors in tractors, there must be a few Filtrators in the area.

Where Are You From? Fremont, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 2 of them

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

I haven't forgotten the reproduction of whatever decal that was on the filtrators. Will get to that when I can.

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Mike:
Thanks for keeping after this one. It was a topic of conversation at the National Meet in Modesto. Regards.

Where Are You From? Yucaipa, CA

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1929 D-60

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Hey Tony, I will continue my quest to find a good picture or an actual one out there to use as a go by. I will get them made when I do. May take some time, but there must be one out there somewhere.

Where Are You From? Oviedo, Florida

Do You own a car built by Durant? 1928 Durant Model 65 4 door sedan from Elizabeth, NJ Plant

Re: Continental Motor Oil Filtrator

Came across this the other day while searching the internet. Not great but the best I have found. At least it gives ideas about color etc. I can't find where the original pictures came from.





Link to where I found the images

Where Are You From? Grand Junction, CO

Do You own a car built by Durant? 26 Star, 29 Durant 63 & 66

 

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