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Jay Graydon
 Jul 3, 06 - 2:00 PM |
Amps
What do you look for when buying a guitar amp? What are your favorite amps? What are your thoughts on this subject. So much more to discuss so jump in and add a subject thread. |
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Dick A.
Jul 12th, 2006 - 3:41 PM |
Re: Amps
I need my guitar and amp to be a total concept, so the amp should be one part of my instrument meaning it shouldn't make sounds of its own and live its own life. It should be "married" to the guitar if you get my meaning. I also look for versatility but the most important thing is a good basic sound. VOX AC30 is one of my favorites. |
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Leo Bender
Jul 21st, 2006 - 10:03 PM |
Re: Amps
Yo Rake, I like my amps to have the warmth of tubes. Nothing else sounds as good to me as an old cranked tube amp. For rock and roll, it's hard to beat brand M. For everything else,I prefer brand F. I guess my fave, and the one I use the most by far, is a 1964 Deluxe Reverb. I hope this finds you well. My regards to you, Biff and Paul. Later, Leo |
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Jay Graydon
Jul 23rd, 2006 - 1:27 AM |
Re: Re: Amps
Yo Leo, Glad to see the first message of an old friend on this new discussion forum! OK, if any of you looking at the board are interested in education regarding guitar amp tech stuff, let it be known that John (nicknamed Leo Bender by me since he uses the 11 string set and bends like an 008 set) is a master!!! Yea man, I agree tubes are happening in general BUT the amp modeling is getting very good! Yea, the total sweetness could be better. Dean Parks uses the Tonelab for certain applications. When running the Tonelab direct through the recording console he says, *I have a box coming that you will like. http://www.redironamps.com/ go to "signal buffer" link>> I will check one out soon. Hey, I loved your M and F amp reference. Is this because the forum boards have now taken down the amp names to initials? Later, Jay |
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Torbjørn Alfsen
Jul 27th, 2006 - 5:28 AM |
Re: Amps
Hi! First of all... SO cool with a discussion forum. Great! Amps: I have a small Marshall rack system (with Quadraverb) and an old Music Man 112 RD. Lately I have bought a Line 6 XT Live. I think it works really good. I don't find that I can use many/any factory sounds, but I try to create my own sounds. I have also visited the website where you share tones(CustomTone.com)but there are not many good setting there. That’s my opinion. Have some of you out there got the Line 6 XT live, or have you tried it? What do you think? I guess we have the same preferences for good guitar sound, so maybe we could share experiences and tones? Greetings from Norway! Torbjørn Alfsen |
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Leo Bender
Jul 29th, 2006 - 7:40 PM |
Re: Amps
Yo Rake, You know I have the utmost respect for you and all the Surftones cats, Dean, Luke, etc. Regarding computer modeling amps, I agree that it's a neat idea and they are getting better and better. However, in my opinion, they still miss the mark somewhat. They just don't seem to breathe like a real tube amp. Maybe in time, but not yet. One significant shortcoming with them that I've noticed is that they seem to get totally lost in the mix on stage. I've seen numerous players using them at gigs, and when the guy goes to do his solo, you just can't hear him. Even the rhythm playing is not that distinct. There is only one computer amp that I've heard that didn't get totally buried, and that was brand F Cyber Twin. Mind you I didn't care for it's tone at all, but it also did not get lost on solos. I think that's because it has sufficient beef in the power amp (100 Watts or so) that it can just brute force it's way through. Lower power computer amps just get buried on stage. At least this has been my observation. I did a big dinner gig several months back, and used my 22 Watt 64 Deluxe Reverb. It was plenty loud, no problem at all being heard. Just goose the volume knob on the axe for the solo, and it cuts through and has ear candy overdrive. The next band up, the guitarist used a 60 Watt computer amp. Hard to hear him. What can I say? Gimmie the glow bottles! Later, Leo |
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Jay Graydon
Jul 30th, 2006 - 1:36 PM |
Re: Re: Amps
Yo Leo, Man, tube amps will always be best. Note I am just using for some solos and other recorded parts. I have no idea what they sound like through an amp since if plugging in an amp, I would simple use the amp. Just pluggin direct into the console. I have found two useable sounds in the Tonelab that I tweaked big time. Check out the ROYAL DAN album I played on and I think you would be fooled it was not an amp. Note that the guy that mixed that album added some 2 kHz to my sound - it made the sound too edgy and slightly cheap but just listen to the distortion and you will see it is smooth. Man, I have not given up on amps and will surely use for recording again. Later Bro, Rake |
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Leo Bender
Aug 5th, 2006 - 11:49 AM |
Re: Amps
Yo Rake, I think the computer amps and DSP signal processor direct boxes may indeed work well in the studio, where the cats sitting at the console doing the mix can have final control of levels and tonal balance. That would fix any perceived volume problems when changing modes on the amp computer from rhythm tones to lead tones. My comments were basically directed to cats trying to use them for live gigs. IOW, be careful, do a soundcheck and have someone with functional ears out in the audience who will let you know if there are tone or volume issues during the performance. I'm sure you understand the deal. Yo, I watched your mid-90s Japan gig with Airplay on YouTube. Nothing You Can Do About It, you were singing. David Foster, Lee Sklar, etc. What a tight band, wow. West coast AOR at it's best. You were using Marshalls there (??), and a Tele with humbuckers. How's the Surftones CD doing? I'll check out the music you mentioned. Later, Leo |
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Jay Graydon
Aug 6th, 2006 - 9:42 AM |
Re: Re: Amps
Yo Leo, Yea, in the studio, I have total control. As far as live playing, I have not yet checked out the sound running through an amp. Note that if running through the PA, that may be dangerous. In any case, I note your findings and will eventually test on a gig for many reasons. Dean Parks uses such boxes for some live gigs and has an elaborate set up as to make work for him. Since he always gets a great tone, he found the work-around. Note he has a preamp and power amp in the chain so I assume he uses the tubes for the agressive buzz saw sound. < >tight band, wow. West coast AOR at it's best. You were using Marshalls >there (??), and a Tele with humbuckers.>> Thanks for the kind words! Yea, the band was tight as it should be for that style of music. Man, I am trying to remember that amp set up. This was a one time deal. I think it was a Bradshaw pre amp, no idea of the power amps, a Bradwhaw switcher that has some outboard gear such as delay and a harmonizer. Yea, two Marshall bottoms. It would have been better as to have the non-effected distortion in the center suing another bottom but the rental system was not set up that way. The Guitar is a Valley Arts Tele (24 frets) with humbuckers. Yea, sounds nothing like a Tele. The guitar is very heavy and as heavy woods wound, the guitar is kind of bright BUT the humbuckers and amp tone feature the mids. Just got that guitar refretted with stainless steel frets - so easy to bend with those frets and thinking of going up a guage on this guitar as well as another with the same frets. << How's the Surftones CD doing?>> The Surftones was recorded for fun and one live gig played for fun. The gig was held in a huge eatery in Malibu on the beach about 1/4 mile from the Malibu pier. We hired the eatery with an open bar. So many great singers and musicians attended. After a catered meal, we played our set. Shortly after, the Jam session started. It was a very fun evening. Now for the funny part. The Surftones will not surface again until somone is willing to pay serious bucks for the best of the best talent. That will never happen and I love the fact this is reverse Hollywood!!!! Later Leo, Rake |
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